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North American Union

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Would you like to see a NAU? Do you believe it would be helpful or harmful for the countries involved? Your thoughts?
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
Would you like to see a NAU? Do you believe it would be helpful or harmful for the countries involved? Your thoughts?
Don't care if it happens.
And whether or not it will be good, only time will tell.

What are the factors you would consider when deciding if it will be good or bad?
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
Will it improve the economy of the countries involved? Etc.
Bush inproved the economy for the rich, so to them it was good. To everyone else it was bad.
Not sure if that is such a great indicator.
Never that I am aware of has a government made the economy both good for the rich and the poor, cause if it did, there would be no poor.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Further liberalization of trade and outsourcing of production will continue to hurt the Mexican people are they still paid nothing for work.
 

enchanted_one1975

Resident Lycanthrope
It could be beneficial to all involved, especially if all three countries had to be consulted before printing a common currency. (A while ago it was thought that we would use the amro instead of the dollar.) We might be able to get inflation under control that way.
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
*bump- I know it won't be the Amero. That's pretty much a conspiracy theory. If there will be a NAU though there will be some kind of dollar.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I am not in favor of a North American Union under any conditions. There is no way I would be willing to gamble on sovereignty issues to help out ill-fated economies that are run by respected buffoons.

Oh, for those who do not know, I am already in Canada and would never seriously consider an official union with the United States and Mexico. Hopefully my elected representatives will see to my wishes. The best prognosis I can see is that America is on the fast track to making itself a third world nation. Go Obama!
 
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Neo-Logic

Reality Checker
I think all the potential benefits of North American Union should be weighed carefully with the moral of European Union's current woes.

To put it less kindly, NAU won't happen on my watch. It's a utopian pipe dream with no footing in reality.
 

Smoke

Done here.
I am not in favor of a North American Union under any conditions. There is no way I would be willing to gamble on sovereignty issues to help out ill-fated economies that are run by respected buffoons.
I'd be against it too, if I were Canadian. I like the idea solely out of self-interest; it would provide a way for me to escape the madhouse and move to a civilized country. I realize the entire continent might become a madhouse, but I figure Canadian weather would keep most of the crazies from moving there, so it would still be a place of relative sanity.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Oh yes - the world's premiere first-world economy, which is ailing badly, could result in nothing but huge benefits for everyone, by absorbing a thoroughly worthless and corrupt third-world economy. Sounds like a great plan.
 

Neo-Logic

Reality Checker
Canada is wicked, man. It's like the USA but without the gun crime and the idiots.

Or, without ability to defend yourself in case an idiot does come. If Canada can deal with our 2nd amendment, I'll let them in. How's that for a litmus test? :D
 

Engyo

Prince of Dorkness!
Or, without ability to defend yourself in case an idiot does come. If Canada can deal with our 2nd amendment, I'll let them in. How's that for a litmus test? :D
From what I can see, on Canadian Gun Laws , there doesn't seem to be any bar on ownership of firearms. Licensing, yes, but no bar to ownership.

I did not look into regulations of specific firearm types, however.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
The idea of an NAU gets almost zero media or (AFAICT) political attention up here in Canada. I don't think it's a serious prospect in the foreseeable future.

Individual things like NAFTA or the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, sure, but I don't see an EU-style government getting set up any time soon.

From what I can see, on Canadian Gun Laws , there doesn't seem to be any bar on ownership of firearms. Licensing, yes, but no bar to ownership.

I did not look into regulations of specific firearm types, however.
You need a license, and you have to register your firearms, which I'm sure would freak a lot of American gun nuts right out.

Long guns like rifles and shotguns are fairly easy to obtain, but handguns are very restricted. You generally have to demonstrate a strong legitimate need (e.g. being a cop or an armoured car driver) before you can get a handgun permit.

Concealed carry is virtually unheard-of.
 

Smoke

Done here.
Long guns like rifles and shotguns are fairly easy to obtain, but handguns are very restricted. You generally have to demonstrate a strong legitimate need (e.g. being a cop or an armoured car driver) before you can get a handgun permit.

Concealed carry is virtually unheard-of.
My granduncle always carried a pistol in his pocket, and I've recently learned that my brother carries a very small one in his. I'd be afraid I'd reach for some change and shoot myself in the foot. :)
 
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