Islam will dominate!

[301ouncer]

Thank you very much.

as to you badran. there is no bad intentions whatsoever. it is a website i use that i type my words into search. it brings every verse highlighted in red.

here you can try it yourself:

Search in the Quran Koran Qura'n القران الكريم

 

[301ouncer]

again what is it you find offensive brother? highlighted or not.

(1) It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسل&#1605 with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of allah) hate (it).
( سورة التوبة , At-Taubah, Chapter #9, Verse #33)

here I will highlight everything you might find offensive, which I do not whatsoever:


(1) It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسل&#1605 with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of allah) hate (it).
( سورة التوبة , At-Taubah, Chapter #9, Verse #33)

happy now? :yes:

 

[Badran]

as to you badran. there is no bad intentions whatsoever. it is a website i use that i type my words into search. it brings every verse highlighted in red.

here you can try it yourself:

Search in the Quran Koran Qura'n القران الكريم

I'm aware that it doesn't have to be bad intentioned, that's why i agreed with fatihah that i should ask you in private, but since you haven't clarified i had to criticize that because when it is done to Muslims i also criticize it. Please don't get me wrong, the thread name and that highlighting thing really makes it look like a provocation. I apologize however for not asking you first.

 

[301ouncer]

Secularism has nothing to do religion. Most people in secular countries have a religion and/or religious belief of some sort (except in Communist countries, damn you Commies ), but that is not the point of secularism.

xkatz, secularisim is an instrument used to stripp the populas from their connection to the creator and re-establish that connection to worldy desires. This will always produce depression to levels that I have evidence to prove. Everything in secularisim is geared towards the complete forgettness of the creator and the complete indulgence of worldly desires.

Depression is not caused by people living in secular society. Rather it is caused by their own internal strife and other factors (such as if they are physically healthy).

This is i am sorry very wrong. thousands of secular factors are the main cause of depression. capital materialisim is the major cause of such high levels of depression. Social breakdown of secular social systems is another major cause. Broken socities and high levels of crimes takes away the tranquility and peace of the masses and that is also a high contributor to social depression. :yes:

 

[Fatihah]

barakAllah u feek akhi al habib. subhanallah someone can feel the presence of a true follower of the alhul sunnah wa jamah from miles away.

you went miles to give me your beloved brother 70 excuses as to the slander of the slanderers. you my beloved brother i am without a shadow of doubt a follower in the footsteps of the sahaba ra.

if only so called secular muslims follow in your example and give their brothers and sisters 70 excuses. but alas they go the extra mile and give no excuses before imprisoning them and torturing them.

Response: Jazak'Allah brother. And your efforts are definately noted and acknowledged. Unfortunately, some muslims here have opted to soften the message of islam and befriend non-muslims, in fear of negative backlash if they speak directly. I don't think ill of those who do so, but I dislike when they attack and criticize other muslims, simply because they don't speak the message the way they speak. This type of ego has to go, and insha'Allah, Allah will guide us in making this possible.

 

[Fatihah]

I'm aware that it doesn't have to be bad intentioned, that's why i agreed with fatihah that i should ask you in private, but since you haven't clarified i had to criticize that because when it is done to Muslims i also criticize it. Please don't get me wrong, the thread name and that highlighting thing really makes it look like a provocation. I apologize however for not asking you first.

Response: I must confess, your humility is truly admiring.

 

[Badran]

Response: I must confess, your humility is truly admiring.

Thank you so much Fatihah.

 

[YmirGF]

xkatz, secularisim is an instrument used to stripp the populas from their connection to the creator and re-establish that connection to worldy desires. This will always produce depression to levels that I have evidence to prove. Everything in secularisim is geared towards the complete forgettness of the creator and the complete indulgence of worldly desires.

Well, that is certainly instructive. When will your doctorate in clinical psychology be completed. I eagerly await your forthcoming groundbreaking research papers once they are submitted for full peer review.

This is i am sorry very wrong. thousands of secular factors are the main cause of depression. capital materialisim is the major cause of such high levels of depression. Social breakdown of secular social systems is another major cause. Broken socities and high levels of crimes takes away the tranquility and peace of the masses and that is also a high contributor to social depression. :yes:

The intellectual genius exhibited in this analysis is beyond the comprehension of mere mortals. Pray tell, what is the solution to our vapid understanding of the human condition? Do I get three guesses?

 

[301ouncer]

it is you who says we can not make friends with non-Muslims, correct or not?
let me remind you, yes you are the one who claims that. though verses of Qur'an says that we can marry people of book and that would contain some non-Muslims don't you think? so according to your understanding or background, a Muslim could marry a non-Muslim and never be freinds with him or her. as a result who claims otherwise is called hypocritical

PS: my words but your claims, friend


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Salamu alikum bajim,

Friendship and marriage two compeletly different things. In marriage the wife and husband work collectively to protect the family and work in common to try their best to bring childeren in the best of manners, etc. The wife look after the benefit of the family. To provide protection to the unity of the family and does her best to keep the family together and keep all outside evil and forces as far as away as possible. This type of families naturally go for both muslims and nonmuslims.

Friendship. Is a mutual benefit of the members involved. It seek pleasure and worldy desires to keep the friendship as long as possible even if it means one of the members will do whatever it takes to keep the friendship. Humans are the most socialable of all kinds. This friendship has no family involved and therefore it is much weaker in defending itself from influnence of the members.

Islam has no problem with marrying people of the book till certain criteria is met. but also Islam does not recommend the intimate friendship with nonmuslims as the nonmuslims will certanily make the muslim forget their creator (Secularise them) and the infulence of their friends becomes much stronger.

By the way, I did not adhere to these principles and was somewhat fortunte to meet the woman of my life at teens and fortune to both of us come to these understandigs together later.

 

[301ouncer]

in the name of buddhism, there were no evil.

Buddhisim does not have well defined social, economical, judicial, forign and enviormental policies. It is a very self centric system that is mostly concerned with perfecting oneself to the level of buddah. No buddist can ever be a perfect buddist. Therefore you see that it turns itself away from the socities and into monkships. These words are not mine but of long time conversation with a buddist while buying some dvd's.

Ofcourse the less a way of life has in terms of changing existing systems it will have the least of oppositions among the elite and rulling classes.

 

[301ouncer]

why islam did became a factor for a numerous crimes while buddhism did not when there are evil peoples in both the faiths?

buddhism as well as hinduisim has the least of governing and policy making systems. Therefore the least of opposition.

 

[301ouncer]

why islam did became a factor for a numerous crimes while buddhism did not when there are evil peoples in both the faiths?

buddhism as well as hinduisim has the least of governing and policy making systems. Therefore the least of opposition.

While Jeudaisim, christianity, and mostly islam has total governing and policy making systems ie. enviroment, economy, etc.

 

[301ouncer]

when did i justified hindu extremism? kindly show such posts of mine....i repeately said in every my posts that i dont justify hindu extremsism.
I had just claimed that it was christian missionaries who started the violance first. In the whole history of india this is the only case where christians got attacked, that when christian missionaries attacked hindus first....

should appreciate your sensitivity towards christians in orissa when u claim mughals attacks on christians in south india to be nonsense.

And the bit inbtween about Islam is again non-sense without any proof.

 

[301ouncer]

Response: The proof that you have that this actually took place is zero. Amazing how non-muslims try to say that muslims advocate violence, yet throughout this thread, it's been you pushing falsified acts of violence. Does your hypocrisy have an end, or is this some new atheist thinking?

If my memory serves me right. Was not his finger hoovering over the nukke button few pages back?

This will be the secular satanic new way of thinking.:yes:

 

[301ouncer]

Well, that is certainly instructive. When will your doctorate in clinical psychology be completed. I eagerly await your forthcoming groundbreaking research papers once they are submitted for full peer review.

As soon as I come back from my sun soaked holiday in Burkina Faso.

The intellectual genius exhibited in this analysis is beyond the comprehension of mere mortals. Pray tell, what is the solution to our vapid understanding of the human condition? Do I get three guesses?

Yes. 1 guess only though. When in Burkina Faso. Do not eat too much beans.

(16) And as he (Noah) was constructing the ship, whenever the chiefs of his people passed by him, they mocked at him. He said: "If you mock at us, so do we mock at you likewise for your mocking.
( سورة هود , Hud, Chapter #11, Verse #38)

(9) And indeed (many) Messengers before you were mocked at, but their scoffers were surrounded by the very thing that they used to mock at.
( سورة الأنعام , Al-Anaam, Chapter #6, Verse #10)

Faso, Faso, Faso,

 

[301ouncer]

Exposing Secularisim and its multi faceted instruments:

(6) Evil (sins and disobedience to Allah) has appeared on land and sea because of what the hands of men have earned (by oppression and evil deeds), that He (Allah) may make them taste a part of that which they have done, in order that they may return (by repenting to Allah, and begging His Pardon).
( سورة الروم , Ar-Room, Chapter #30, Verse #41)

 

[301ouncer]

Exposing Secularisim and its multi faceted instruments:

(6) Evil (sins/disobedience/mischief to Allah) has appeared on land and sea because of what the hands of men have earned (by oppression and evil deeds), that He (Allah) may make them taste a part of that which they have done, in order that they may return (by repenting to Allah, and begging His Pardon).
( سورة الروم , Ar-Room, Chapter #30, Verse #41)

Islam and Christianity is free from this oppression and mischief. Secularisim oppression and mischief is in-shrined in its morden constitutions.

 

[LuisDantas]

Wow. I'm part of some sort of Evil Cult and nobody told me. I feel left out.

 

[The_Evelyonian]

Wow. I'm part of some sort of Evil Cult and nobody told me. I feel left out.

I know. They don't send me the memos either....

 

[.lava]

Salamu alikum bajim,

Friendship and marriage two compeletly different things. In marriage the wife and husband work collectively to protect the family and work in common to try their best to bring childeren in the best of manners, etc. The wife look after the benefit of the family. To provide protection to the unity of the family and does her best to keep the family together and keep all outside evil and forces as far as away as possible. This type of families naturally go for both muslims and nonmuslims.

Friendship. Is a mutual benefit of the members involved. It seek pleasure and worldy desires to keep the friendship as long as possible even if it means one of the members will do whatever it takes to keep the friendship. Humans are the most socialable of all kinds. This friendship has no family involved and therefore it is much weaker in defending itself from influnence of the members.

Islam has no problem with marrying people of the book till certain criteria is met. but also Islam does not recommend the intimate friendship with nonmuslims as the nonmuslims will certanily make the muslim forget their creator (Secularise them) and the infulence of their friends becomes much stronger.

By the way, I did not adhere to these principles and was somewhat fortunte to meet the woman of my life at teens and fortune to both of us come to these understandigs together later.

Va Alaykum Salaam

nice explanation but it makes no sense to me. it is not practical. if you get married with a non-Muslim, i think first you should be friends. two persons have to know each other to make that decision.

i thought about something that Fatihah said earlier. if i am not mistaken it was like we are commanded to show respect to non-Muslims. i agree with that. but i find it extremely cold in practice. showing respect but being no friends. i certainly don't know how you or he define friendship. i have friends but not all of them stand at the same distance to me. some are closer. if we share same life style then it is of course easier. so there are different levels of friendship. i have friends who drink alcohol for instance but you could not see me with them when they do. i refuse to talk to people if they drank alcohol and i would not sit with them. so even if i have friends who do things that's against Islam that's not to say i would join them and do the same. generalizing all non-Muslims and Muslims is wrong IMO. but if some army invaded your nation like Iraq, of course you would not make any friends with them. i would not. i would not care if they were good or bad. because they all serve the same thing that ruins my nation. but in a peaceful place and in peaceful time, people should offer respect and love together. respect without love does not mean much. because what unites heart of people is love. if Muslims deny this unique connection with human being because they are not Muslims, i don't think they would be representing Islam as Sahaba did. because people of Sahaba loved their enemies and Qur'an says so. don't you know that?

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