Lady Gaga does it again with over-the-top "Telephone" video

[MysticSang'ha]

lol... sorry pettle I was only jesting with your comment plz forgive my silliness.
You seem like a lovely woman to me
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Hey uv Nice post! I beleive you would only have to have been the real you to shine!
Youd be loved just the way you are!

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I know I have been sounding like I dont belong to these. time but I do just worry about how influential children are and I cant help thinking that these pop stars who do outrages stuff know well what they are doing including the ones that are told what to wear and how to conduct themselves etc. and they must be aware of how youngsters will react... Katey Perry when she done that song and she was holding a knife... In the UK there was already a high level knife culture amongst teenagers.
Next thing you know... katey perry dolls holding a knife were being sold in stalls and also more knifes were being sold to youngsters etc. So Katey Perry was making it all the more Cool but now they were apealing to girls! I dont know if it is only I that think like this!
Pink, I liked watching her too but she did show a violent streak too, loud hard as nails.... The teenage girls are bad enough really! Its not that cool for my wife who has to walk the children through a few cuts that are full of these crazy teens who in my opinion are a result of what they are influenced by these pop idols!

How many knife deaths was Katey Perry responsible for? thats the way I see it!
Did she know what she was doing and did she give a damn! Some people will do anything for there selfish gain no matter of the conseqenses. JMO

Cheers
Dave.

Jazz was blamed for the perceived promiscuity among American youths when it was popular.

Katy Perry wasn't responsible for any knife deaths. Judas Priest wasn't responsible for any teen suicides. Marilyn Manson wasn't responsible for Columbine. Let's see.....other popular recording artists throughout the decade that at one time or another have been blamed for the degradation of society as we know it:

2 Live Crew
Eminem
Led Zeppelin
Elvis
Benny Goodman
KISS
Alice Cooper
The Rolling Stones
The Beatles
Jefferson Airplane
Janis Joplin
The Doors
Ice-T (remember "Cop Killer"?)
N.W.A. and Eazy-E
Jerry Lee Lewis
Hank Williams
Prince ("Darling Nikki" in particular)

How about Sinead O'Connor's ripping up the picture of the Pope on SNL?

How about the Rat Pack? Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., and uh.....LOL......crap I have to look the other two up: Oh yeah, Peter Lawford and Joey Bishop.

Billie Holiday. Duke Ellington.

And this is just within the last century. How about Debussy's "Rite of Spring?" Controversy and pushing the envelope was standard fare for many of the Baroque and classical composers. Mozart, Haydn, Stravinsky........

Pushing the envelope is necessary once in a while to help the arts evolve.

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

I still disagreee, I think the music of Bob Dylan reflected the changes that were happening.

He was way a head of the curve.

How do you explain Bob Marley He spread both Jamaican music and the Rastafari movement to a worldwide audience.

Nuclear power is still used in the US

There has not been a Nuclear power plant built in america in over 25 years.
I guess Obama is going to change all of that now.

here are a multitude of artists at any time who go unrecognised because they are out of sync with the zeitgest of the time.

I am not say that what you are saying is false. You have just put art and Humanity in too small of a box. But then again what do I know.

Art can be an important unifying force for people, but it can only connect to a feeling in them, that is already there, it can't create it.

Art can and does at times point the way . You are right that Art is a refection of the times. But it can move and shape humanity It can not create what is in us but it can give it wings. Art can also lead us to the transcendent. The way we eat, pray and walk all is art its all beauty. My God is beauty.

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

I know I have been sounding like I dont belong to these. time but I do just worry about how influential children are and I cant help thinking that these pop stars who do outrages stuff know well what they are doing including the ones that are told what to wear and how to conduct themselves etc.

Ok David we have created Art and ripped open all the stereo types of our culture.

On one hand we have a Hindu and Buddhist defending violence and sexual behavior in pop videos. Then we have a lucifarian complaining about the affect of violence on children.

Oh my Cognitive dissonance maybe we just cant trust stereo types.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Ok David we have created Art and ripped open all the stereo types of our culture.

On one hand we have a Hindu and Buddhist defending violence and sexual behavior in pop videos. Then we have a lucifarian complaining about the affect of violence on children.

Oh my Cognitive dissonance maybe we just cant trust stereo types.

LOL, funny isn't it?

 

[monta]

He was way a head of the curve.

How do you explain Bob Marley He spread both Jamaican music and the Rastafari movement to a worldwide audience. There was no Rastas in America before him.



There has not been a Nuclear power plant built in america in over 25 years.
I guess Obama is going to change all of that now.



I am not say that what you are saying is false. You have just put art and Humanity in too small of a box. But then again what do I know.



Art can and does at times point the way . You are right that Art is a refection of the times. But it can move and shape humanity It can not create what is in us but it can give it wings. Art can also lead us to the transcendent. The way we eat, pray and walk all is art its all beauty. My God is beauty.

I am just going to yank the band aid off, it's not worth a heated debate, but, Bob Dylan without the people who made him popular is just another kid strumming away in his basement, the Rastahfarian movement has been active in the US since the 1920's, Watts Bar 1 Nuclear Power Plant came online in Tennessee 1996.

Art can exist without an artist but not without an audience.

 

[The Voice of Reason]

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YouTube - Benny benassi - Satisfaction

Damn! I'm going to need an icewater and a trip to the hardware store after watching that video.

 

[dust1n]

I don't believe artists change society, rather they reflect it.

I agree to a degree, but the reflection artistry provides changes society...

Society changes art, art changes society, back and forth..

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

I am just going to yank the band aid off, it's not worth a heated debate, but, Bob Dylan without the people who made him popular is just another kid strumming away in his basement,

I never said this was not true.

the Rastahfarian movement has been active in the US since the 1920's,

I think you are talking about Marcus Garvey. He was a influence on the Rastahfarians but they were not a Rastah. I when to the Smithsonian and attended a movie on the history of Rastahfarians. There is just so little info on this subject. The Jamaican Rastahfarians began to immigrate to the United States in the 1960s and 1970s, in small and localized Rastahfarian groups. It was not till Bob Marley there ideas spread out of these small communities.

Marcus Garvey predicted the movement he said "Look to Africa, for there a king shall be crowned," . When Ras Tafari of Ethiopia was crowned Emperor Haile Selassie in 1930, some folks believed Marcus Garvey prophecy was fulfilled, and said that King Haile Selassie was Jah
( God).
This is when the movement started. At least that is what I have been told.

But, you are right on this point I exagerated there were a few Rastas in america before Marley. It just was not a part of popular culture.

I and I

Watts Bar 1 Nuclear Power Plant came online in Tennessee 1996.

I did not know that one was built Thank you. I guess I was wrong. Many more have been shut down then opened. The pace slowed down from it's hay day a lot. Is it just one that has been opened or is their more?

Still the spirit of my point was made that a piece of art at the right time can help change the public views on thing. The Bang went out of this form of energy due to 3 mile island and the movie China Syndrome. This brought about a change in thought about Nuclear Power. It is true that an audience was there but the movie shaped pubic views on this subject.

Art can exist without an artist but not without an audience.

Thats like asking if a tree falls in the woods will it make noise if there is nobody to hear it.

I do believe I have been misunderstood. So sorry for my poor communication skills. Take a moment and think about what I am saying. I think you will find it to be not so far from the truth.

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

I agree to a degree, but the reflection artistry provides changes society...

Society changes art, art changes society, back and forth..

Well said I agree.

 

[dust1n]

And this is just within the last century. How about Debussy's "Rite of Spring?"

"Rite of Spring" was Stravinsky's piece.

Though, I wanted to add, Auber's La muette de Portici (The mute girl of Portici), when first placed in Belgium, caused a riot which turned into the Belgian revolution (yes the same night) and caused the independence of Belgium.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

"Rite of Spring" was Stravinsky's piece.

Though, I wanted to add, Auber's La muette de Portici (The mute girl of Portici), when first placed in Belgium, caused a riot which turned into the Belgian revolution (yes the same night) and caused the independence of Belgium.

Doh! Thanks for the correction.

 

[monta]

And E Depois do Adeus the Portuguese entry for 1974 ESC was used as a secret signal for the start of the Carnation Revolution, a coup d'etat that overthrew Portugal's fascist regime in 1974. The song came second last in the competition, the song wasn't the impetus for the revolution, it was born out of peoples desire to revolt.

I think this thread is going a bit off course :biglaugh:

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

the song wasn't the impetus for the revolution, it was born out of peoples desire to revolt.

I just want to get it straight. You believe an Artist has no impetus on society?

I will then let this thread go back to the op intent.

 

[monta]

the song wasn't the impetus for the revolution, it was born out of peoples desire to revolt.

I just want to get it straight. You believe an Artist has no impetus on society?

I will then let this thread go back to the op intent.

I never say never, but I do believe people often put the cart before the horse, for example, protest songs are created by peoples urge to protest, they don't exist prior to the idea that creates them.

I think the art outlasts the people, and that art heightens emotion and acts as a trigger for memory, so often the art becomes intrinsically linked with historical events, it doesn't age or get caught with it's pants down, or it's hand in the till, 10 years down the line, so while the people who actually worked to effect a change are forgotten the songs are still there.

 

[Troublemane]

Yep, that's the one.

Catch all the pop culture references? From Kill Bill to Thelma & Louise?

Yesh indeed! I particularly liked Beyonce's "Betty Page" hair, and of course Gaga's smoking cigarette sunglasses.

I still say, if Madonna and Marylin Manson had a baby, it would be Lady Gaga!:angel2:

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Yesh indeed! I particularly liked Beyonce's "Betty Page" hair, and of course Gaga's smoking cigarette sunglasses.

I still say, if Madonna and Marylin Manson had a baby, it would be Lady Gaga!:angel2:

That's.......not as difficult to imagine as I would think.

 

[DallasApple]

Ya'll..I got made fun of last night at Easter because I was discussing this OP ..that I had never heard of Lady Gaga before..

Anyway it appears a few of my people (at least the ones there) compares her as the "new Madonna" which I thought was interesting.

Of course I got the lecture by my sister..(the one that was described later as a "noodle" by my oldest son that had to collect her off the ground from the amount of vodka she drank) that Im "stuck in the 80's."

Just because I dont like the weird hats..or this song..and I havent heard of this woman before Im apparently 25 years in the past and "stuck" there.

Oh well..I guess I need to spend more of my time watching boring silly videos..and listening to what I think is a boring uninteresting songs ..on the radio to be "current".And then not only that I have to lie and say I think its really "hot" and I love it.

Love

Dallas

 

[MysticSang'ha]

What made you think you had to do that, Lana? It's your taste in music.

To hell with anyone who says you have to like an artist when you really don't.

 

[monta]

This song gives me earworms, and that reminds me of the game, so everytime I hear it I lose the game and now maybe you will too. :sorry1:

 

[Moonstone]

I love Gaga, but i wouldn't want my kids (if i had any) to be watching videos like that. Then again it's a parents job to control what their kids do and don't watch anyways.

i also think this is her weakest single yet. i don't really like this song (or the video).. i loved bad romance oodles more than this!