Humans and Chimp, its True...

[Man of Faith]

She's calling you a liar because you're spreading false information about ToE.

That's simply not true. If that is the case I can call everybody that accepts the ToE a liar because it is false, IMO. It doesn't help to call people liars because they have a different opinion.

 

[Autodidact]

I'm glad you are not leaving the RF. When you point out that I am lying, it would probably make you more credible if you are specific. Saying that I am a liar because I don't believe in the ToE isn't credible in some circles.

Wow, I thought I was clear.

If you say that ToE is false, while refusing to learn what it says, you're lying.
If you say that there is no evidence to support ToE, while refusing to look at the evidence there is, you're lying.

If you persist in doing those things, you are a liar.

Do you need me to repeat it in even more simple terms?

I don't have a problem with my credibility, which I am very careful about.

 

[Tristesse]

That's simply not true. If that is the case I can call everybody that accepts the ToE a liar because it is false, IMO. It doesn't help to call people liars because they have a different opinion.

It would be a different opinion if you actually understood what ToE is and dismissed it as valid, but thats not what appears to be happening here. You have a vary limited understanding of what it actually is, and it's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of dismissing evidence in favor of unsupported assertions.

 

[Commoner]

That's simply not true. If that is the case I can call everybody that accepts the ToE a liar because it is false, IMO. It doesn't help to call people liars because they have a different opinion.

You beat your wife...but that's just my opinion, so don't you dare call me a liar. Respect my opinion.

 

[Autodidact]

That's simply not true. If that is the case I can call everybody that accepts the ToE a liar because it is false, IMO. It doesn't help to call people liars because they have a different opinion.

It has nothing to do with your opinion. You don't know what ToE is. I offered to explain it to you, and you declined. Therefore you are not in a position to have the slightest clue whether it is true or false.

To have a valid opinion about something, you need to know what it is.

What you are doing is the equivalent of saying: "I know Christianity isn't true, because there is no such thing as an invisible rabbit." Then, when someone offers to explain to me that Christianity is not based on belief in an invisible rabbit, I decline. Finally, I continue to go around the internet announcing that Christianity is false, and there is no reason to believe it, and I'm not going to believe it, until someone shows me an invisible rabbit.

 

[Autodidact]

that's simply not true. If that is the case i can call everybody that accepts the toe a liar because it is false, imo. It doesn't help to call people liars because they have a different opinion.

How do you know it is false, if you don't know what it is?!?

 

[Gabethewiking]

I am disappointed in the lack of progress on our scientific method experiment, specifically with the "Test with an experiment" step. I have provided 5 tests, 5 things that would falsify and 5 things that would verify our hypothesis below. I thought we were going to do real science using the real scientific method. I hope this is not how other scientists operate, but I suspect it is. Maybe that is why we cannot sieve the evolution theory though the scientific method. I need to know, is the ToE science or not?

No you have not Man of Faith. You provided invalid experiments/tests.
The only thing we need to do is to correct it and supply valid tests that would confirm or deny our hyothesis, You have shown now that you do not want to do that, as well as you deny the Hypothesis before you tested it (note underlined text).

You have shown a complete lack of respect to me as well as others. You have intentionally lied to me about wanting to learn about the Scientific Method and how we arrive at conclusions, You disrespected me without fail and I can not understand why someone would want to do this. As another member stated, You are indeed a Charlatan that does not want to learn.

I am prepared to help you understand the Theory of Evolution and our Evolutionary History if you wanted too, you have lied and wasted time of people who genuinly wanted to help you, you are a disgrace to any human in our society. Why would you do such a thing?

 

[Man of Faith]

How do you know it is false, if you don't know what it is?!?

I do know what it is. And everything I say about it is how I see it and believe it. If you want to call me a liar that's fine, it doens't bother me. I know who I am.

 

[Man of Faith]

I've been debating the ToE for four years now on different forums. I am used to being called a liar and ad hominem attacks. Try being a creationist for a while and see what I am talking about. It is like white noise to me now, it doesn't bother me. It's background noise. It has lost its sting. It is not helpful and it is false.

 

[Gabethewiking]

Disclaimar:

I am going to write a letter to the moderators about having you either barred or marked as a liar and charlatan in this forum. The reason I think this is a valid point is that this entire thread you have, in a Debating Forum, agreed to follow the regulations we set, you directly lied about it and in such case must (by my own calculation) be against the forum rules.

You can not have people debate if they do not follow the regulations set forth, such as "Ask Question" and "Answer", you show signs of being what is known as a troll or woo and I will heavily invest my time to make the case to the moderators, this is a forum and whatever you agree with your fellow man or not, need to show a certain respect and control in your handling, You have shown an attempt to waste time on purpose, presumably, because you enjoy hurting people and want to harm them in some way or another. I am telling you this so you know as most likely it will not go through with the flexible regulations in this forum, either way, I will not speak to you any more as you are clearly afraid of learning about the Theory of Evolution.

Good day.
Ga Briel

 

[Tristesse]

I do know what it is. And everything I say about it is how I see it and believe it. If you want to call me a liar that's fine, it doens't bother me. I know who I am.

It's not about how you see it and believe it, it's about understanding the evidence, and looking at the evidence. It's nothing like a religious belief, it's just having an understanding of the facts, which you clearly lack.

 

[Tristesse]

I've been debating the ToE for four years now on different forums. I am used to being called a liar and ad hominem attacks. Try being a creationist for a while and see what I am talking about. It is like white noise to me now, it doesn't bother me. It's background noise. It has lost its sting. It is not helpful and it is false.

For someone who claims to have been debating this for four years, you seem to be lacking a fundamental understanding of this theory. And thats not an attack, its an observation.

 

[Autodidact]

I do know what it is.

Oh, I see, you know what it is, and you're deliberately mistating it then? Intentionally lying about it? Because over and over you make false statements about it.

And everything I say about it is how I see it and believe it. If you want to call me a liar that's fine, it doens't bother me. I know who I am.

What do you call it when someone tells lies?

Christianity is ridiculous! There are no invisible rabbits!

 

[johnhanks]

What design principle lay behind humans and chimps possessing an identically broken vitamin C gene?

And still I have no response from Man of Faith. Now, it can't be that he doesn't have an answer, so why do we suppose he's so shy?

 

[fantome profane]

When you point out that I am lying, it would probably make you more credible if you are specific.

You are lying when you refer to yourself as a scientist. You are not really doing science, you are not looking for answers, you are not examining the evidence, and you are not trying to discover new evidence. You are engaging in cheap rhetoric. You are trying to use the terminology of science to give the false impression that you are doing science. That is what we call pseudo-science. It is dishonest. It is lying.

No, I want to see it and experience it, not read about it. I want to talk to a manchimp. That's real science, observation.

Scientists read books. Darwin read books. Many of the posters on this board are much better informed on the subject than you are, because they read books. You will always be ignorant on the topic unless you are willing to read books.

Once again I direct you to look at the link in my signature.

 

[Gabethewiking]

Books are for ******* and Liberals, I just use my Gun.....

 

[McBell]

That's simply not true.

Liar.
Now if you honestly did not know any better, I would hesitate in calling you a liar.
However, this thread clearly shows that you have no intention of learning anything and every intention of looking the fool.

If that is the case I can call everybody that accepts the ToE a liar because it is false,

Liar.
It is not false.

IMO.

My what an ego you have.
So you think your opinion dictates fact?

It doesn't help to call people liars because they have a different opinion.

It does not help to rely upon lies, repeat lies, ignore truth, repeat lies, ignore facts, repeat lies, etc.
Especially if you do not want to be called the liar you are.

 

[Circle_One]

Nothwithstanding that there is no evidence for this and it is all made up out of man's imagination, it is not even belieavable. Let me put to bed this notion that people don't believe in evolution because they are ignorant. The more I learn about evolution the more I see it's weaknesses, not its strenghts. Evolution is a dying theory, it can no longer be propped up through intimidation and the courts. People are too sophistaced for that, we want evidence, not empty name calling and scare tactics.

98% of all fossils have been discovered. The evidence for evolution is just not there in the fossil record. Random mutation cannot account for increased information. As dogs evolve ino new breeds we see that DNA information decreases.

Per the bolded: You don't see the irony in this statement, considering you are a Christian??

 

[Autodidact]

So, Man of Faith, two questions:

1. What effect do you think it has on your witness when you're caught in deliberate dishonesty?
2. What does your religion say about bearing false witness?

 

[footprints]

It's not about how you see it and believe it, it's about understanding the evidence, and looking at the evidence. It's nothing like a religious belief, it's just having an understanding of the facts, which you clearly lack.

The faith and belief in evolution is exactly the same as a religious belief. Rediculous to suggest otherwise, this is just how some people try to justify their bigotry and prejudice.

So who's witness should we take on this, yours? How about others who fall for the same power of suggestions? Do you fully believe that scientists are infallible? Do you by any stroke of the imagination believe that biology is an exact science?

Evolution has a probability of being correct based on our current knowledge to date. The theory still contains many missing links and power of suggestions which some people cling to in pure blind faith as they correct the missing links by their own imagination.

To even imply that humans have all the knowledge of the universe as it pertains to this is preposterous. And about the dumbest postion a person could take.