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What if Jesus was the antichrist?
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DreadFish
Cosmic Vagabond
You know I have wondered a lot lately if Jesus were to come back now (not literally descending from heaven and such) if most mainstream Christians would think hes the anti-christ and/or a false prophet. Especially because (in my opinion) the mainstream western churches are a lot like the establishment he went against originally, therefore he might be against them and they would see that as being anti-christ-like.
OGMIOS6666
Member
You will all be suprised when Jesus christ will reveal himself, these establishments who have depicted him in the wrong manner will come to know the inevitable, he will come and surely destroy the Cross and rectify the confusion that the evil elders had conjured up. You see Jesus will come to clarify alot of things, surely in the sight of God, he too is afraid of what will become of him. 
Zorro1227
Active Member
Haha I agree that is definitely more likely
Zorro1227
Active Member
This was just to get people thinking. What if the Christ hasn't come yet?
OGMIOS6666
Member
. He will be of average height and red and white in colour. His hair spread to the shoulders, straight, neat and shining as after a bath. On bending his head, it will seem as if pearls are falling. He will have an armour on his body. He will be wearing two pieces of cloth light yellow in colour.
Humanistheart
Well-Known Member
I think he means that he does not -actually- believe that Jesus is the antichrist. Maybe someone assumed he did. I've forgotten already (sooo tired right now).
Humanistheart
Well-Known Member
Ah, thanks. Well there is no anti-christ as there are no gods or what not, but as for as the lore goes jesus does well fit the definition of anti-christ.
Christ Black
New Member
Your question makes me think that you have not looked into what is known about the Antichrist.(s)
There are only four verses in the Bible dealing with the word antichrist or Antichrist. Three of them say that an antichrist is somebody who does not live by Jesus' teachings or it is somebody who does not believe or even preaches that Jesus was not the Christ.
The last verse just says that it is the last time, and that Antichrist will come, still while mentioning the many antichrists mentioned in the first three verses. (actually, this verse is the first verse mentioning antichrists, not the last.)
The Antichrist is an antichrist who turned his life around and is now an example for other antichrists to follow in their redemption. I am speaking from experience. I am the Antichrist, and I am Jehova's and Elohim's Messiah.
There are, as a matter of fact, many real Antichrists who will begin to emerge right now. I have only just started going public. (the Second Coming team is still messing with me a little bit by not backing me up in public to build my character a little bit more.)
Right now I can only prove it by my knowledge of the system and the afterlife, but within the next few days I will be able to prove this message and God's existence. I am good, not evil, and only good things are going to come out of the emergence of the Antichrist Messiah. -
E the yura (The aproppriate amount of love to glyph to everybody that you come into contact with.)
Christ Black
There are only four verses in the Bible dealing with the word antichrist or Antichrist. Three of them say that an antichrist is somebody who does not live by Jesus' teachings or it is somebody who does not believe or even preaches that Jesus was not the Christ.
The last verse just says that it is the last time, and that Antichrist will come, still while mentioning the many antichrists mentioned in the first three verses. (actually, this verse is the first verse mentioning antichrists, not the last.)
The Antichrist is an antichrist who turned his life around and is now an example for other antichrists to follow in their redemption. I am speaking from experience. I am the Antichrist, and I am Jehova's and Elohim's Messiah.
There are, as a matter of fact, many real Antichrists who will begin to emerge right now. I have only just started going public. (the Second Coming team is still messing with me a little bit by not backing me up in public to build my character a little bit more.)
Right now I can only prove it by my knowledge of the system and the afterlife, but within the next few days I will be able to prove this message and God's existence. I am good, not evil, and only good things are going to come out of the emergence of the Antichrist Messiah. -
E the yura (The aproppriate amount of love to glyph to everybody that you come into contact with.)
Christ Black
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
If I ever end up like this, someone please shoot me and put me out of my misery.
Christ Black
New Member
I am not in misery so don't shoot me. I am actually having the time of my life. Five more posts and I can put in the name of my website. I am using your forums to go public. I am legitimate and I can prove it.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
Prove it to a good psychiatrist.
Zorro1227
Active Member
That Jesus was the antichrist. I do not believe in the Bible so I do not think there is or was a christ.
Zorro1227
Active Member
Zorro1227
Active Member
I do understand what I can of the scriptures. This is more of a question to get people thinking.
Lots of weird people emerging these days with all sorts of crazy ideas.
This should be...amusing.
Jamal_a_Man
Member
my view on Isa (jesus) peace be upon him.
1) he is one of the Most mightiest Messengers of God
2) a Pure hearted and a pure actioned man
3) he was sent to the Jews, to set them back onto the stright path, a righteous path.
4) his message was to believe in one god, and to associate non with him.
5) Jesus (peace be upon him) is the messiah.
6) he was also sent to give glad tidings of a messenger (the comforter) who would come after him and who would glorify his name, and bring many solutions to our problems.
the 6th point is very important. Read the following passage, Jesus (peace be upon him) speaks and says:
John 16:7 - Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
- what does this passage mean? basically, Jesus is saying that it is better for YOU, or US, (or to those he was speaking to at the time, Jews) that he leaves. why? because then he can go and he can send the comforter.
who or what is a comforter? comforter n. One that comforts: the nurse as comforter of the sick. it is interesting that it refers to a nurse as she helps the sick.
however, what it refers to is a thing, or an individual that will be sent to human kind when Jesus (peace be upon him) goes back, that will help heal the sick. not literally, but in terms of faith.
He also adds that the comforter cannot come unless he goes.
john 16:13 - Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
- regarding the comforter. Jesus peace be upon him talks about what the comforter will do. now this verse has alot to dissect in it.
firstly - what does it mean by spirit? does it mean a ghost? a spook? the holy ghost? no. in those days if an individual was referred to as a true spirit then he was considered on who was rightly guided. Jesus was a true spirit. Why because he was a rightly guided individual. but when Jesus (peace be upon him) talks about another spirit of truth, he cannot be talking about himself. so who is it? .....
Secondly - this verse is like no other. there are 6 HE's. Jesus specifically referrs to a man, a man, a man, a man, a man and a man. along with the fact that he is talking about a true spirit it is quite clear that jesus (peace be upon him) is talking about a man who will be rightly guided.
Thirdly - Jesus (peace be upon him) goes into telling us how this righlty guided man will help us and how he will gain the capacity to help us. Well, when HE comes, HE will guide us to the truth! (what truth? isnt the truth already here? evidently not! the jews were not ready for the truth, they did not have the capacity to understand jesus's message) HE will not speak of HIMself! (just liek jesus, he will seek the will of God and is one who is totally submitted to God) BUT what ever HE shall HEAR, HE shall Speak. (very important line! who in the history of this world has claimed that whatever he hears, he speaks? Who claimed that the angel Gabriel came with word from God so that he may listen to it and Relay it to us? HEAR then SPEAK, just think) And HE will show you things to come.
John 16:14 - He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Jesus (peace be upon him) says that this Comforter will glorify him! and that he will recieve of mine! and show it to us!
ok, so other than christianity, which other major religion and proabaly only religion, makes it an artical of faith to believe in Jesus (peace be upon him) which religion has a religious book, which has an ENTIRE chapter dedicated to the Mother of Jesus, Mary and Glorifies Her! not even the bible has an entire chapter dedicated to Mary. i am not critisising at all, honestly, i am only trying to connect the dots.
Muhammad (peace be upon him) has glorified Jesus, by telling us how greater messenger Jesus (peace be upon him) was, that jesus (peace be upon him) is not only a messenger but also the messiah! i.e. telling us of things to come.
Some christians believe that this comforter is the holy ghost. is the holy ghost a he? yes this is a valid question, because in the verse there are 6 masculin He's used and also one masculin Himself. this verse is obviously talking about a he, and a He that is rightly guided.
Any ways, if for a moment we believe that this comforter is the holy ghost and not Muhammad (peace be upon him) then we must ask ourselves, what has the holy ghost brought to us that is new? what solutions has the holy ghost brought about for homosexuality, rape, chronic alcoholism, surplus women and adultery etc. Any ways, i can ramble on for ages. but i hope i helped, and if i have misunderstood these verses, please do not hesitate to let me know, as i am open to rethinking.
again, thankyou for reading!
Jamal
1) he is one of the Most mightiest Messengers of God
2) a Pure hearted and a pure actioned man
3) he was sent to the Jews, to set them back onto the stright path, a righteous path.
4) his message was to believe in one god, and to associate non with him.
5) Jesus (peace be upon him) is the messiah.
6) he was also sent to give glad tidings of a messenger (the comforter) who would come after him and who would glorify his name, and bring many solutions to our problems.
the 6th point is very important. Read the following passage, Jesus (peace be upon him) speaks and says:
John 16:7 - Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
- what does this passage mean? basically, Jesus is saying that it is better for YOU, or US, (or to those he was speaking to at the time, Jews) that he leaves. why? because then he can go and he can send the comforter.
who or what is a comforter? comforter n. One that comforts: the nurse as comforter of the sick. it is interesting that it refers to a nurse as she helps the sick.
however, what it refers to is a thing, or an individual that will be sent to human kind when Jesus (peace be upon him) goes back, that will help heal the sick. not literally, but in terms of faith.
He also adds that the comforter cannot come unless he goes.
john 16:13 - Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
- regarding the comforter. Jesus peace be upon him talks about what the comforter will do. now this verse has alot to dissect in it.
firstly - what does it mean by spirit? does it mean a ghost? a spook? the holy ghost? no. in those days if an individual was referred to as a true spirit then he was considered on who was rightly guided. Jesus was a true spirit. Why because he was a rightly guided individual. but when Jesus (peace be upon him) talks about another spirit of truth, he cannot be talking about himself. so who is it? .....
Secondly - this verse is like no other. there are 6 HE's. Jesus specifically referrs to a man, a man, a man, a man, a man and a man. along with the fact that he is talking about a true spirit it is quite clear that jesus (peace be upon him) is talking about a man who will be rightly guided.
Thirdly - Jesus (peace be upon him) goes into telling us how this righlty guided man will help us and how he will gain the capacity to help us. Well, when HE comes, HE will guide us to the truth! (what truth? isnt the truth already here? evidently not! the jews were not ready for the truth, they did not have the capacity to understand jesus's message) HE will not speak of HIMself! (just liek jesus, he will seek the will of God and is one who is totally submitted to God) BUT what ever HE shall HEAR, HE shall Speak. (very important line! who in the history of this world has claimed that whatever he hears, he speaks? Who claimed that the angel Gabriel came with word from God so that he may listen to it and Relay it to us? HEAR then SPEAK, just think) And HE will show you things to come.
John 16:14 - He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Jesus (peace be upon him) says that this Comforter will glorify him! and that he will recieve of mine! and show it to us!
ok, so other than christianity, which other major religion and proabaly only religion, makes it an artical of faith to believe in Jesus (peace be upon him) which religion has a religious book, which has an ENTIRE chapter dedicated to the Mother of Jesus, Mary and Glorifies Her! not even the bible has an entire chapter dedicated to Mary. i am not critisising at all, honestly, i am only trying to connect the dots.
Muhammad (peace be upon him) has glorified Jesus, by telling us how greater messenger Jesus (peace be upon him) was, that jesus (peace be upon him) is not only a messenger but also the messiah! i.e. telling us of things to come.
Some christians believe that this comforter is the holy ghost. is the holy ghost a he? yes this is a valid question, because in the verse there are 6 masculin He's used and also one masculin Himself. this verse is obviously talking about a he, and a He that is rightly guided.
Any ways, if for a moment we believe that this comforter is the holy ghost and not Muhammad (peace be upon him) then we must ask ourselves, what has the holy ghost brought to us that is new? what solutions has the holy ghost brought about for homosexuality, rape, chronic alcoholism, surplus women and adultery etc. Any ways, i can ramble on for ages. but i hope i helped, and if i have misunderstood these verses, please do not hesitate to let me know, as i am open to rethinking.
again, thankyou for reading!
Jamal