Is it wrong to advocate homosexuality as a sin?

[HouseofIsrael]

It would if a woman used one to rape you. Now, would you still prefer that to consensual fellatio?

She might be ended before she begins. Fellatio by whom? all manner of same-sex intercourse is prohibited -consensual or by force.

 

[keithnurse]

With respect, could you imagine a world of homosexuals, where a man no longer lust for a woman, what kind of family lives would there be. I think these people are scared for their world and their protest may have nothing to do with religious nonsense.

Irrelevant. If you want to refute the pro homosexual position, refute what we are actually advocating. Not a caricature of it. Of course humanity would come to an end if there was no more procreation. Gay people are NOT advocating that everyone on earth be gay but we are advocating for rights for the small minority of people who are gay.

 

[Autodidact]

With respect, could you imagine a world of homosexuals, where a man no longer lust for a woman, what kind of family lives would there be. I think these people are scared for their world and their protest may have nothing to do with religious nonsense.

Obviously, there would be homosexual family lives. But what does this have to do with this thread?

One benefit: No unplanned for, uncared for, neglected children. That would be a good thing.

Do you think that homosexuality is so delightful, so inherently superior, that if we permit it, everyone will become homosexual? Well, again, speaking as a woman, maybe you're right.

 

[Autodidact]

She might be ended before she begins. Fellatio by whom? all manner of same-sex intercourse is prohibited -consensual or by force.

Try to follow along. We're not talking about what is and is not prohibited. You made a stupid anti-gay argument by claiming to be against rape. That's obviously a ridiculous argument, because the overwhelming majority of rape is heterosexual. By your argument, you should then oppose heterosexuality.

You also said that you would rather be raped by a women then made love to by a man. I'm asking whether, if your options are to be anally raped by a woman, or receive fellatio from a man. I don't know what on earth it has to do with the thread, or why you brought your personal sexual preferences into it, but since you did, which would you prefer?

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

With respect, could you imagine a world of homosexuals, where a man no longer lust for a woman, what kind of family lives would there be. I think these people are scared for their world and their protest may have nothing to do with religious nonsense.

This has already been imagined in a book called the Forever War by Joe Haldeman. Homosexuality was used to fight population growth and babies were created in test tubes. I very interesting read, I highly recommend it.

 

[Autodidact]

It does occur to me that possibly HoI sees homosexuality as scary for a couple of reasons.

1. Sex is linked in his mind with forcible sex. Women are prone to be victimized by rape. He fears being victimized by homosexual rape, so is afraid of homosexuality in general.
2. He seems homosexuality as desirable, so is afraid that everyone will turn gay if we allow it.

 

[keithnurse]

It does occur to me that possibly HoI sees homosexuality as scary for a couple of reasons.

1. Sex is linked in his mind with forcible sex. Women are prone to be victimized by rape. He fears being victimized by homosexual rape, so is afraid of homosexuality in general.
2. He seems homosexuality as desirable, so is afraid that everyone will turn gay if we allow it.

Yes, this is right. HOI should look at San Francisco. It is now 30-35 years after gay people became a serious political power there and the city is still majority heterosexual.

 

[HouseofIsrael]

Try to follow along. We're not talking about what is and is not prohibited. You made a stupid anti-gay argument by claiming to be against rape. That's obviously a ridiculous argument, because the overwhelming majority of rape is heterosexual. By your argument, you should then oppose heterosexuality.

That was not a stupid argument

You also said that you would rather be raped by a women then made love to by a man. I'm asking whether, if your options are to be anally raped by a woman, or receive fellatio from a man. I don't know what on earth it has to do with the thread, or why you brought your personal sexual preferences into it, but since you did, which would you prefer?

My idea of being raped by a woman is obviously different from yours, you speak from a homosexual point of view i cease to imagine. Of course you think i wanted to be sarcastic about homosexuality when i mention a personal incident, of course not, i did to simply say there are aggressive gay in contrast to the norm we talk about. What do i prefer? well neither is the only option you should have had here. To involve in either one is abnormal to me.

 

[HouseofIsrael]

This has already been imagined in a book called the Forever War by Joe Haldeman. Homosexuality was used to fight population growth and babies were created in test tubes. I very interesting read, I highly recommend it.

Are you serious. So you're saying the engagement of homosexuality that is known to be around for centuries was systematic...

 

[HouseofIsrael]

Yes, this is right. HOI should look at San Francisco. It is now 30-35 years after gay people became a serious political power there and the city is still majority heterosexual.

If the Governor of that state pass that law, what can the people do other than protest against. I was told that, in many organizations at all levels and political institutions a study was made and many of the high ranking officials are homosexuals. Furthermore, because of their influential status, many or their employees and members become gay to get promotion and offers. Not sure how creditable that information was, but i decide to mention it as you talk about San Francisco state.

 

[Autodidact]

That was not a stupid argument

Well you wouldn't think so, would you, since it's your argument. However, if it is a good argument, then you should oppose heterosexuality, which is responsible for the overwhelming majority of rapes committed.

My idea of being raped by a woman is obviously different from yours, you speak from a homosexual point of view i cease to imagine. Of course you think i wanted to be sarcastic about homosexuality when i mention a personal incident, of course not, i did to simply say there are aggressive gay in contrast to the norm we talk about. What do i prefer? well neither is the only option you should have had here. To involve in either one is abnormal to me.

Then why did you bring it up?

 

[Autodidact]

If the Governor of that state pass that law, what can the people do other than protest against. I was told that, in many organizations at all levels and political institutions a study was made and many of the high ranking officials are homosexuals. Furthermore, because of their influential status, many or their employees and members become gay to get promotion and offers. Not sure how creditable that information was, but i decide to mention it as you talk about San Francisco state.

I don't know where to begin, except maybe a great big arrow pointing in the direction of reality? Let's start with the fact that San Francisco is not a state, and just add that's about the overall quality of the information you provide.

 

[HouseofIsrael]

Well you wouldn't think so, would you, since it's your argument. However, if it is a good argument, then you should oppose heterosexuality, which is responsible for the overwhelming majority of rapes committed.

I am trying to understand the argument here, being heterosexual doesn't make you a rapist so how could it be responsible? you shouldn't try to justify why homosexuality might be good to you by insinuating heterosexuality as bad -a perverted mind is responsible, there are heterosexual rapist, bisexual rapist and homosexual rapist.

 

[HouseofIsrael]

I don't know where to begin, except maybe a great big arrow pointing in the direction of reality? Let's start with the fact that San Francisco is not a state, and just add that's about the overall quality of the information you provide.

Fear enough, you seem to focus on the little errors and miss the whole point -i hope i am wrong. The truth is i am not American and i can't say a lot about the city and states except for a few.

 

[HipHopAvenger]

We cannot advocate homosexuality as a sin. Probably it became to be a sin in those times, when in Rome the members of rich families "sinned" and homosexuality was not an abnormal thing. And people just wanted to show how bad was the state of society in those days. And wanted to become different from those rich people.

 

[Kerr]

My stand om homosexuality is simple, and hang together with my view on sexuality as something very private. Basically I consider it to be none of my business if you are hetrosexual, homosexual or bisexual. As long as no force is involved, I am mostly happy. From this perspective it makes no sense to claim that homosexuality is a sin, or that homosexual sex is wrong. And considering everything, yes, I consider it wrong to advocate homosexuality as a sin.

 

[Autodidact]

I am trying to understand the argument here, being heterosexual doesn't make you a rapist so how could it be responsible? you shouldn't try to justify why homosexuality might be good to you by insinuating heterosexuality as bad -a perverted mind is responsible, there are heterosexual rapist, bisexual rapist and homosexual rapist.

Exactly. So why did you bring up rape in a discussion of homosexuality? Since rapists come in all sexualities, it was completely irrelevant to a discussion of the morality of homosexuality.

 

[Autodidact]

Fear enough, you seem to focus on the little errors and miss the whole point -i hope i am wrong. The truth is i am not American and i can't say a lot about the city and states except for a few.

Believe me, House, that was your smallest mistake. After that it just got worse.

 

[Vile Atheist]

If the Governor of that state pass that law, what can the people do other than protest against. I was told that, in many organizations at all levels and political institutions a study was made and many of the high ranking officials are homosexuals. Furthermore, because of their influential status, many or their employees and members become gay to get promotion and offers. Not sure how creditable that information was, but i decide to mention it as you talk about San Francisco state.

Even if they were homosexual, what difference does that make?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

If you think homosexuality is a sin, I guarantee you that the problem is with you, not homosexuals - period.