Why Some Christians Become Militant Atheists

[Enoch07]

haha Thou shall not murder is not specific enough, thats why we have different laws that cover different aspects of murder, you can't get away with a phrase like thou shall not murder. It's too vague. You need to look up the definition of covet, I'll wait. Coveting is not illegal. Lying is not illegal. Keep going, we still only have 2.

No thou shall not kill is to vague. I specifically changed it to murder for just this reason. To murder...is to specifically pre-meditate and ends someones life, which also is the same as the sin of murder. If I am walking somewhere and a driver accidently KILLS me, yes he goes to jail. But God would not hold that person liable for my life, and neither would I. Because accidents happen, we all make mistakes. That is why there is a difference. Look it up. Ask any police officer, court official, or lawyer. They will tell you the same thing.

 

[Tristesse]

No thou shall not kill is to vague. I specifically changed it to murder for just this reason. To murder...is to specifically pre-meditate and ends someones life, which also is the same as the sin of murder. If I am walking somewhere and a driver accidently KILLS me, yes he goes to jail. But God would not hold that person liable for my life, and neither would I. Because accidents happen, we all make mistakes. That is why there is a difference. Look it up. Ask any police officer, court official, or lawyer. They will tell you the same thing.

Murder is too vague, I think I said murder in my post. Thats why we have different classifications of murder in law. The bible never states premeditated, your adding to it. And your also making all these assumptions about "god" that aren't found in the bible. We still only have two commandments that are law. We don't get it from the bible sorry.

 

[Enoch07]

Murder is too vague, I think I said murder in my post. Thats why we have different classifications of murder in law. The bible never states premeditated, your adding to it. And your also making all these assumptions about "god" that aren't found in the bible. We still only have two commandments that are law. We don't get it from the bible sorry.

Yah uhmm welcome to ignore. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. And you dont know how to count rofl. Sometimes my signature just doesnt lie. Good day.

 

[Tristesse]

Yah uhmm welcome to ignore. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. And you dont know how to count rofl. Sometimes my signature just doesnt lie. Good day.

I can count to two, your signature doesn't lie, and when you pray, thats you talking to yourself. You should really stop that. And what is it that I'm ignoring exactly? that your god is the one true god, and we all get our laws from this almighty law maker? it's absurd, and yes good day.

 

[CarlinKnew]

then why give science all the glory and G-d all the blame? If G-d exists then he gave not only the diseases that people fie from but also the knowledge that keeps them alive. If science gets all the glory for keeping people alive then it also gets all the blame for people dying because science didn't get the formula right the first time.

That's easy to answer:

We do the best we can by using science. Some are unable to be treated as a result of the imperfections of science. As we continue to make scientific progress, medical treatments become more effective.

Assuming your god exists, he doesn't do the best he can. He is able to heal everyone, and yet he chooses not to.

Take this scenario:

Three men are out in the desert. Their names are Man, Science, and God. Man suddenly collapses. He's unable to speak, but it's obvious that he's in severe pain. Immediately Science rushes to Man and performs first aid. Science doesn't know what ails Man, but he draws upon all of his resources to give Man the best treatment that he possibly can.

An excruciating hour passes, and Man finally dies. Science collapses, exhausted and dripping with sweat from doing everything that he possibly could to save Man's life.

Science looks over to God, who had been standing nearby watching the whole time. God knew exactly why Man collapsed. God had a syringe filled with the medicine that would have instantly cured Man, and yet he chose not to intervene.

Who deserves the blame: Science or God?

 

[Rakhel]

He didn't promise to heal people. Oh wait. You are talking about the christian god aren't you? Sorry you will have to find a better problem to blame on him. My G-d isn't all loving.

 

[Enoch07]

Who deserves the blame: Science or God?

Neither. It was just time for the man to die. So God allowed it to happen. This is a great story to prove one of sciences flaws. Which is sometimes things happen for a reason you cant explain with science. God has his reasons though. Sad though we humans are too feeble minded to always see what they are.

 

[CarlinKnew]

He didn't promise to heal people. Oh wait. You are talking about the christian god aren't you? Sorry you will have to find a better problem to blame on him. My G-d isn't all loving.

What an immoral ******* he is then. Why would you worship such an evil character?

 

[CarlinKnew]

Neither. It was just time for the man to die. So God allowed it to happen. This is a great story to prove one of sciences flaws. Which is sometimes things happen for a reason you cant explain with science. God has his reasons though. Sad though we humans are too feeble minded to always see what they are.

So if you're collapsed in excruciating pain, and someone is standing nearby with a syringe full of treatment that would instantly cure you, you would prefer if they just let you die a slow painful death, simply because they concluded "Nah, it's your time to die."

 

[J Bryson]

Excuse me for going off-topic, but I'm going to answer the OP:

I was an atheist for several years after being a Christian, though I don't think that "militant" really describes my belief set. I did have doubts, though, when I was a Christian. Many doubts. I prayed for God to remove these doubts from my heart. They grew. I prayed again. They grew still. Finally, in despair, I sat and prayed for whatever guidance I could be granted. Then it hit me:

God didn't want me to believe in him.

He wished for me to be a skeptic.

I haven't looked back with regret since that moment.

 

[darkendless]

I think sweden is a lovely country, norway too, oh and I musn't forget denmark. I'm going this year, I don't understand your point.

Norway has fallen to Christianity. However, i did not meet one stupid Christian there. Young Earth Creationism is something that is laughed at by Christians and Heathens alike. A lot of American Christians give Christianity a bad name for their rediculous ways as beliving everything in the bible to be true and realistic.

 

[Enoch07]

What an immoral ******* he is then. Why would you worship such an evil character?

Why is it immoral to let someone die? Obviously God had a reason for letting the man die. Probably to let him out of his misery considering he is walking in the desert with an immortal God, and a tool box we call science.

 

[CarlinKnew]

Why is it immoral to let someone die? Obviously God had a reason for letting the man die. Probably to let him out of his misery considering he is walking in the desert with an immortal God, and a tool box we call science.

He could have instantly cured him, but instead he chose to let him suffer and die a slow, painful death. That is immoral.

 

[Enoch07]

So if you're collapsed in excruciating pain, and someone is standing nearby with a syringe full of treatment that would instantly cure you, you would prefer if they just let you die a slow painful death, simply because they concluded "Nah, it's your time to die."

You did not state someone. You stated God and science. If I was that guy I would have known that God had a good reason for letting me die. And off I would have went happy as a lark.

 

[Tristesse]

Excuse me for going off-topic, but I'm going to answer the OP:

I was an atheist for several years after being a Christian, though I don't think that "militant" really describes my belief set. I did have doubts, though, when I was a Christian. Many doubts. I prayed for God to remove these doubts from my heart. They grew. I prayed again. They grew still. Finally, in despair, I sat and prayed for whatever guidance I could be granted. Then it hit me:

God didn't want me to believe in him.

He wished for me to be a skeptic.

I haven't looked back with regret since that moment.

What you just said, didn't sound like a very skeptical statement. "god didn't want you to believe in him?" that statement suggests that you do believe he exists. Thats not quite being an atheist.

 

[CarlinKnew]

Excuse me for going off-topic, but I'm going to answer the OP:

I was an atheist for several years after being a Christian, though I don't think that "militant" really describes my belief set. I did have doubts, though, when I was a Christian. Many doubts. I prayed for God to remove these doubts from my heart. They grew. I prayed again. They grew still. Finally, in despair, I sat and prayed for whatever guidance I could be granted. Then it hit me:

God didn't want me to believe in him.

He wished for me to be a skeptic.

I haven't looked back with regret since that moment.

Isn't the bold statement contradictory? You would need to believe in god in order for you to conclude that he doesn't want you to believe in him...

 

[Tristesse]

Norway has fallen to Christianity. However, i did not meet one stupid Christian there. Young Earth Creationism is something that is laughed at by Christians and Heathens alike. A lot of American Christians give Christianity a bad name for their rediculous ways as beliving everything in the bible to be true and realistic.

It has? last I heard like 80% were atheist or agnostic. Or maybe that was just sweden.

 

[CarlinKnew]

You did not state someone. You stated God and science. If I was that guy I would have known that God had a good reason for letting me die. And off I would have went happy as a lark.

If you read the story you'd notice that it was about three men, named Man, Science, and God. I could've just as easily picked Bob, Sam, and Jim.

So basically any immoral action is OK with you as long as it's god doing it.

 

[Tristesse]

If you read the story you'd notice that it was about three men, named Man, Science, and God. I could've just as easily picked Bob, Sam, and Jim.

So basically any immoral action is OK with you as long as it's god doing it.

Yeah, that pretty much sums up religiosity. When human do it, it's immoral, when god does it, it's praised.

 

[Enoch07]

Ahh so your playing word games to try and prove a point to your own agenda. LoL You actually think that works?