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Holocaust deniers!!!

What is the impression you get when you first hear or read that someone is a holocaust denier?

  • Someone is claiming that the Nazis didn't kill ANY Jew?

    Votes: 40 54.1%
  • is questioning the number of people who been killed?

    Votes: 18 24.3%
  • denying the existence or the methods used in gas chambers?

    Votes: 16 21.6%
  • claiming that a deliberate campaign to exterminate the Jewish people never occurred?

    Votes: 24 32.4%
  • all the above

    Votes: 17 23.0%
  • others?

    Votes: 12 16.2%

  • Total voters
    74

Nepenthe

Tu Stultus Es
Here is a good link on motives for zionism. It may seem like the author is biased but he backs up everything with official documents, quotes and other stuff from various government(s) officials.

persecution
Yaaaawnnn... More drivel. Linking to a Jackie Patru site is like linking to a creationist site when discussing evolution- it's worthless. Patru is a notorious conspiracy theorist who sees the Evil Joo-ish Cabal in every war, decision and event that has occurred in American history.
Yaawnn.....
 

Bishadi

Active Member
Most do not understand why Hilter was mad at the jewish folk.

He wanted union of the people for the state of Germany and some of the religious folk wanted none of it. But they owned the business, the usary (banks) and created a stir against the state.

Israel Bans Arab Parties From Coming Election


January 12, 2009

JERUSALEM — Israel on Monday banned Arab political parties from running in next month's parliamentary elections, drawing accusations of racism by an Arab lawmaker who said he would challenge the decision in the country's Supreme Court.

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The rise of a toxic force in Israel

The rise of a toxic force in Israel
Friday 13 February 2009

But it’s not this idea which has made Lieberman such a toxic force. For that you have to look to the slogan that drove his campaign: “No loyalty, no citizenship.” He would insist that every Israeli swear an oath of loyalty to Israel as a Jewish state: Anyone who loses will lose his citizenship.
Israel Beytenu denies this is racist, insisting that every Israeli will have to swear the oath, Jewish or Arab. It is true that plenty of ultra-orthodox Jews who don’t accept the authority of a secular state may also refuse. But the target is clearly Israel’s 1.45 million Arabs. If they will not swear their allegiance, explains Lieberman deputy Uzi Landau, “They will have residency rights but no right to vote or be in the Knesset.”

Now see for yourself.............. 'who' is it that isolate people, then and NOW?

Most do not know the truth behind it all.
 

AK4

Well-Known Member
Your 2 pence is worthless. There was a clear mandate to exterminate Jews, gypsys, homosexuals, etc. The historical evidence is overwhelming. I'd suggest starting with Shermer's Denying the Holocaust to actually educate yourself on some real history. That's just a small baby step in the correct direction.


Right, now you do your homework on what the talmud and the mishnrah and the protocols of the elders and see if its just drivel. Apparently you havent. I know more than just "jews" were killed. I dont deny the "holocaust" i just dont buy into what has been traditionally taught by the mainstream. What a coincidence that the Khazars and thier empire are missing out of most if not close to all history books.

Also try reading up on Benjamin Freedman and Woodrow Wilson
 
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Nepenthe

Tu Stultus Es
Right, now you do your homework on what the talmud and the mishnrah and the protocols of the elders and see if its just drivel. Apparently you havent. I know more than just "jews" were killed. I dont deny the "holocaust" i just dont buy into what has been traditionally taught by the mainstream. What a coincidence that the Khazars and thier empire are missing out of most if not close to all history books.

Also try reading up on Benjamin Freedman and Woodrow Wilson
Uh, are you referring to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? You do realize it's a forgery and a hoax- right?
And what do Freedman or Wilson's opinions have to do with anything? Care to substantiate whatever you're claiming? And how exactly do the Khazars factor into your conspiracy scheme?
 

AK4

Well-Known Member
Uh, are you referring to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? You do realize it's a forgery and a hoax- right?
And what do Freedman or Wilson's opinions have to do with anything? Care to substantiate whatever you're claiming? And how exactly do the Khazars factor into your conspiracy scheme?

Well it would pretty much jump the topic from the OP but they all tie in together. And if the protocols are a hoax its amazing how since it was first translated into english in1905 how many of those protocols have been and are still being played out. Something "translated" over a century ago has been directly happening especially to America and the constitution and our lives and media etc etc etc.

The khazars-----look up the Thirteenth Tribe. This was written by a jewish man himself if i remember correctly
 

AK4

Well-Known Member
Uh, are you referring to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? You do realize it's a forgery and a hoax- right?
And what do Freedman or Wilson's opinions have to do with anything? Care to substantiate whatever you're claiming? And how exactly do the Khazars factor into your conspiracy scheme?

I will add this also excerpt from section_14


A SPURIOUS DOCUMENT?
[FONT=Times,Times New Roman]What light does Allen's book, throw on the Protocols? A negative one, it would seem, in as much as he shows Gentile interests to have as much clout as the Jewish. Yet the Protocols are not to be dismissed so easily. For if they are false un one sense, a reader cannot help feeling that they are genuine in another! What makes them seem genuine is that they are not at all what one would expect from "a Russian religious mystic". They show too deep an understanding both of Gentile weaknesses familiar to us all and of the sort of mind set which might ruthlessly exploit them for sectarian gain. Fictional or not, they were written by somebody who knew very well the kind of men whose utterances they supposedly report. They express a wealth of hard-headed insight in a tone of arrogant superiority which is not unfamiliar to us either. We cannot quarrel with the comment of Henry Ford's Dearborn Independent - which publicized the Protocols in America around 1921 -that the work was "too terribly real for fiction, too well-sustained for speculation, too deep in its knowledge of the secret springs of life for forgery".[/FONT]
[FONT=Times,Times New Roman]Then who did write the Protocols? We may never know that, but it seems improbable that either a mystic or a bigoted Russian policeman could have come up with an analysis so penetrating, and so unfailingly prophetic. "Spurious" the document may be, historically speaking. But as anyone familiar with current events will instantly recognize, many passages in it show a remarkable prescience.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times,Times New Roman]That a document first published un 1905 should have predicted the collapse of European monarchies, the Bolshevik Revolution and World Wars yielding little change in territory but a big one un the map of international finance is surprising enough. That it should also have anticipated a Great Depression caused by the arbitrary cutting-of credit, the resurgence of Israel, the current squeeze on countries with large external debt - and even hinted at today's explosion in "derivatives:" trading----has to impress any thoughtful reader. ("That's some "mystic"! Or he might echo the comment made in 1921 by Ford himself: "The only statement I have to make about the Protocols is that they fit into what has gone on in the world situation these sixteen years,. They fit it now.)[/FONT]​

EDIT---Now study the talmud and the mishnrah
 
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Nepenthe

Tu Stultus Es
Well it would pretty much jump the topic from the OP but they all tie in together. And if the protocols are a hoax its amazing how since it was first translated into english in1905 how many of those protocols have been and are still being played out. Something "translated" over a century ago has been directly happening especially to America and the constitution and our lives and media etc etc etc.

The khazars-----look up the Thirteenth Tribe. This was written by a jewish man himself if i remember correctly
You amuse me.
I'm bored and this just might be fun!
There's nothing "amazing" about the book being a hoax; it's been well established as a hoax for over 70 years now. If your amazed at these alleged "protocols [that]have been and are still being played out" then you're equally amazed that Maurice Joly's book The Dialogue' was just as prescient... except Joly's book was a colloquy between Machiavelli, de Secondat and de Montesquieu.

And what precise protocols are actually being played out? Alcoholism? The dreaded "Darwinism"? Marxism, Communism? World wars! Who saw that one comin'!?!?! Etc., etc.

Please waste my time some more. I still have a few hours here at work and this Excel spreadsheet is boring me to tears.

Wasn't my boredom predicted in Protocol 25?
 

AK4

Well-Known Member
You amuse me.
I'm bored and this just might be fun!
There's nothing "amazing" about the book being a hoax; it's been well established as a hoax for over 70 years now. If your amazed at these alleged "protocols [that]have been and are still being played out" then you're equally amazed that Maurice Joly's book The Dialogue' was just as prescient... except Joly's book was a colloquy between Machiavelli, de Secondat and de Montesquieu.

And what precise protocols are actually being played out? Alcoholism? The dreaded "Darwinism"? Marxism, Communism? World wars! Who saw that one comin'!?!?! Etc., etc.

Please waste my time some more. I still have a few hours here at work and this Excel spreadsheet is boring me to tears.

Wasn't my boredom predicted in Protocol 25?


Oh brother. You read what wikipedia says of the protocols and think those are it. Alcoholism? are you serious? I gave you a link that showed the protocols in detail but you fail to look at em so oh well stay ignorant.:faint:
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
IMO you have to first understand the motive to deny the Holocaust,there are those i am sad to say reside in my country who are "Neo Nazis" and just Antisemtic and even dress up in Nazi uniforms,thank goodness though they are very few and are not taken seriously.
However there are others who deny the Holocaust,not because they are Anti semetic but because they are Anti Zionist,to their way of thinking if they deny the Holocaust they can deny the creation of the state of Israel.
Now although it is well documented and the UN sanctioned the state of Israel that was recognised by Iran,Russia,Britain,USA among others and was signed sealed and done legitamately the deniers are trying to say the Holocaust never happened therefore there was no excuse for the State of Israel to be created and the craziest part is the same people will often compare the Holocaust to whats happening in Palestine:confused::areyoucra
 

BucephalusBB

ABACABB
Maro, I am not sure about the others, but none of your pictures are showing for me.
They all seem to be linked to a part of a mailingsystem?
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Building walls and fences To keep people in prisons

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Cannot be a very good prison if rockets guns and explosives are available to the inmates
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Destroying homes and livelihoods
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Gifts (with love) from the children of Peace loving and civilized countries
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The Israelis practice the same tactics
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This is getting off topic so would perhaps be better discussed elsewhere but i agree bulldozing homes etc is not good or the matter of settlers but none of this would be this way had Palestine not gone down the road of violence in the first place 60 years ago and followed the same disasterous "destroy Israel" agenda ever since.
 

Nepenthe

Tu Stultus Es
Oh brother. You read what wikipedia says of the protocols and think those are it. Alcoholism? are you serious? I gave you a link that showed the protocols in detail but you fail to look at em so oh well stay ignorant.:faint:
I have read the Protocols. You're a big boy; you can Google several sites that debunk the Protocols in minute detail without my or your parents help. It's a hoax, and it's been a known fraud for a long time now. Wiki' is not the end all; there are many books that explain the forged history of the Protocols. Again, do your homework instead of grasping onto silly conspiracy theories.
 

Elessar

Well-Known Member
AK4, the Protocols were disproven before they were even translated into English. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a load of crap. And your poorly researched "exposures" of the Talmud are no less crap.
 

herushura

Active Member
What is the impression you get when you first hear or read that someone is a holocaust denier?

That someone is ...

1- claiming that the Nazis didn't kill ANY Jew?
2- merely *questioning* the number of people who been killed?
3- denying the existence or the methods used in gas chambers?
4- claiming that a deliberate campaign to exterminate the Jewish people never occurred?
5- all the above.
6- others?

I heard lots of rumours, most terrible rumour is that ww2, and the holocaust is based on population control, wiping couple of millions from the earth, America did that well when they massacered Japan and vietnam.

Other rumour is that german did not kill jews, but of randomous people, and
that it was a coverup, to seek control of israel, leaving millions of islamic pilistines
homeless.

more rumours is that the war was started to weaken the infrastructure of european
countrys causing the European Union to start, the founder of which is based on an nazi generals.

most nazi scientist whos responibile for deadly weapons, were brough to american to work on NASA.

the word nazi is said to be a form term for Illuminati. illuminazi.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
I heard lots of rumours, most terrible rumour is that ww2, and the holocaust is based on population control, wiping couple of millions from the earth, America did that well when they massacered Japan and vietnam.

Other rumour is that german did not kill jews, but of randomous people, and
that it was a coverup, to seek control of israel, leaving millions of islamic pilistines
homeless.

more rumours is that the war was started to weaken the infrastructure of european
countrys causing the European Union to start, the founder of which is based on an nazi generals.

most nazi scientist whos responibile for deadly weapons, were brough to american to work on NASA.

the word nazi is said to be a form term for Illuminati. illuminazi.

Can i ask where these rumours come from? is this another conspiracy theory,when my Uncle who was one of the first British soldiers to find Belsen Birkenau all the inmates of that extermination camp had a star of David on their stripey uniforms most of the already dead people in that camp only had the number that was tatooed on there arm,there were so many they used bulldozers to bury them my Uncle was pretty sure he could smell and see them as death has a certain smell.
The part about the EU isn't correct either,its not Nazis that run the EU its just idiots who could'nt run a tap.
The Americans did indeed take a German scientist who did help the space program as for the Illuminati Illuminazi i think somebody is reading to much fiction.
 
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maro

muslimah
Maro, I am not sure about the others, but none of your pictures are showing for me.
They all seem to be linked to a part of a mailingsystem?

yep :( , the pictures are making a comparison between what the nazi did and what the israelis are doing right now ..i don't know how to make them visible here..i can e-mail them to you if you want to

edit : i have deleted them
 
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