My understanding is probably far from the actual truth

[Howard Is]

I see being enlightened to be able to stay in the mindless state any time. When not able then not enlightened.
(Of course I am not talking about staying in the mindless state when driving a car, that would be unwise)

Who told you that was enlightenment ?

 

[Secret Chief]

Thus "truth" died for me.

They'll never have you on a jury then!

 

[Howard Is]

to be able to stay in the mindless state any time.

I hope we continue this conversation, we’re getting to the point now. But it’s past bedtime here in Australia, so ... catch you later

 

[stvdv]

I hope we continue this conversation, we’re getting to the point now. But it’s past bedtime here in Australia, so ... catch you later

Oh, the other side of the world (from Holland; was there once)
Wish you Divine Dreams

 

[Revoltingest]

They'll never have you on a jury then!

Been on one.
And been summoned twice since.

 

[Secret Chief]

Been on one.
And been summoned twice since.

What did you make of the experience? (I've not been called)

 

[Revoltingest]

What did you make of the experience? (I've not been called)

Serving on a jury reinforced my belief that many
people are prejudiced, irrational, & don't believe
in the sense of justice in our Constitution.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Serving on a jury reinforced my belief that many
people are prejudiced, irrational, & don't believe
in the sense of justice in our Constitution.

Well, glad you escaped that to post on internet forums.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, glad you escaped that to post on internet forums.

I get the joke.
But I always demand a bench trial.

 

[Secret Chief]

Serving on a jury reinforced my belief that many
people are prejudiced, irrational, & don't believe
in the sense of justice in our Constitution.

Are you referring to those on trial, fellow jurors or both?

 

[Pipiripi]

Aslong someone are open to know the truth, and pray with all their heart to see what is true. Jesus come to you by His Holy Spirit and open your mind. When you get the truth you will see that there is no time left for hanging around. You must preach the truth because it is the Holy Spirit in you that speak. Not an other being Holy Spirit, but Jesus Himself is working through you. Follow only the Bible.

 

[Revoltingest]

Are you referring to those on trial, fellow jurors or both?

Jurors.
Some wanted to convict the guy because he looked "scary".
They had no interest in the evidence or argument.
I bullied them into acquittal because the prosecution had no case.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Jurors.
Some wanted to convict the guy because he looked "scary".
They had no interest in the evidence or argument.
I bullied them into acquittal because the prosecution had no case.

Sounds kind of like a bigger problem in the court process...

For example, say you do have a judge determine something like say, a lawsuit. The judge could think the defendent is innocent, but still rule against them because they didn't bring up the proper defenses or cite the correct court cases to win against the plaintiff.

 

[Revoltingest]

Sounds kind of like a bigger problem in the court process...

For example, say you do have a judge determine something like say, a lawsuit. The judge could think the defendent is innocent, but still rule against them because they didn't bring up the proper defenses or cite the correct court cases to win against the plaintiff.

I haven't seen that, but judges are often the problem.
It's especially bad in Michigan...."black robe syndrome".

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

I haven't seen that, but judges are often the problem.
It's especially bad in Michigan...."black robe syndrome".

I see it all the time in debt collection. Say you are being sued by a collection agency for a $1000 debt. I really think you can win it even if you owe, in some cases. The problem? Winning could cost $10,000 in legal fees. So, you are basically guilty.

 

[Revoltingest]

I see it all the time in debt collection. Say you are being sued by a collection agency for a $1000 debt. I really think you can win it even if you owe, in some cases. The problem? Winning could cost $10,000 in legal fees. So, you are basically guilty.

For such a small debt, one could act pro se.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

For such a small debt, one could act pro se.

Collection agencies usually employ lawyers. So you'd be arguing against a lawyer with a diploma.

 

[Revoltingest]

Collection agencies usually employ lawyers. So you'd be arguing against a lawyer with a diploma.

Lawyers don't have any magical powers.
For a simple case over a small debt, they
can be easily defeated if one's case is strong.
Been there & done that.

But when there's complexity & real money at
stake, then tis best to employ one skilled in
legal gamesmanship.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Lawyers don't have any magical powers.
For a simple case over a small debt, they
can be easily defeated if one's case is strong.
Been there & done that.

But when there's complexity & real money at
stake, then tis best to employ one skilled in
legal gamesmanship.

Just hope you win. Because if the case gets drawn out, and you lose... you'll typically have to pay the other side's legal fees.

 

[Revoltingest]

Just hope you win. Because if the case gets drawn out, and you lose... you'll typically have to pay the other side's legal fees.

Not here.
It's rather rare to be awarded attorney fees, even when
winning overwhelmingly. I've seen hundreds of cases,
& only twice did I ever see the prevailing party get that.
And in one case, I know it was uncollectible.
So lawyers often file cases as a means of extorting
money from defendants.