Are there single fathers, who never married, with children in the West?

[Robert.Evans]

1. No, you made a statement that abuse is not one sided and I can attest to the fact that abuse can occur in the blink of an eye with no provocation whatsoever from the receiving person. Abuse taking more than one form is far from saying that it is not one sided. Saying it is not one sided means that you think that in some way I wanted or provoked this SOB to abuse me and that is utter silliness.
2. No, I could be just sitting there and he would punch me for no reason whatsoever. Perhaps you have never encountered abuse before and maybe you should do some research because you don't seem to understand that topic at all.
3. I am more than comfortable talking about it and act in the capacity of a person who can counsel if a person is being abused.

I have only said that abuse CAN work both ways.
You seem to have a problem with that.

 

[leibowde84]

Go back to Scotland

Isn't he already in scottland?

 

[Robert.Evans]

I believe you put yourself there when you told me you could tell me what I should do.

What does that mean?

 

[savagewind]

I will add, that can work both ways, from both parties and still be abuse.

That it can work both ways is so obvious that to say it to an abused person is disgusting.

 

[savagewind]

There are fools aplenty here, and perhaps one of them is you. See? That is called rrturning the favour, abusing one as they abuse you, which can go both ways and you have agree with me; so why say that?

Oh, did you not read my word "if"?

 

[Draka]

What does that mean?

Exactly what I said. Or don't you remember you telling me that you could tell me what I should do in regards to my life and abusive past? Because you did. You claimed some sense of superior knowledge about what I should do based upon your own beliefs.

 

[leibowde84]

I am truly sorry to hear that baby. Welcome to the club. And btw...Kiss kiss darling. You are the best.

Back at you, my love. My point here is that fighting is natural in any relationship. It is going to happen from time to time. But, abuse should never be tolerated.

 

[Robert.Evans]

That it can work both ways is so obvious that to say it to an abused person is disgusting.

It is called being honest. Those can't discuss subject should leave. Otherwise how can we discuss it. And it makes sense now considering the replies I have got. . . ad hominem

 

[leibowde84]

I have only said that abuse CAN work both ways.
You seem to have a problem with that.

Nope. You said "abuse IN MOST CASES is not one-sided". You certainly did not claim that it merely CAN or is POSSIBLE to be two-sided. Should I go back and get your actual comment?

 

[Robert.Evans]

My point here is that fighting is natural in any relationship. It is going to happen from time to time. But, abuse should never be tolerated.

Correct. Now let's argue about it

 

[Draka]

It is called being honest. Those can't discuss subject should leave. Otherwise how can we discuss it. And it makes sense now considering the replies I have got. . . ad hominem

Lovely, goodbye then, don't let the door smack you on the way out.

 

[savagewind]

Exactly what I said. Or don't you remember you telling me that you could tell me what I should do in regards to my life and abusive past? Because you did. You claimed some sense of superior knowledge about what I should do based upon your own beliefs.

I shall be a witness that he really did say that after separating from an abusive husband it is God's will, says he, that you should not remarry.

That you did remarry makes you a sinner against God, according to some people. That is assumed because people have brains with nervous connections.

 

[JoStories]

You did not start out by saying some situations do not fit your criteria. Shall I find your first post about it?

Here is what he originally said:
Abuse, whatever it might be, is not usually onesided.
That was said by him on page 18 I believe

 

[Robert.Evans]

Nope. You said "abuse IN MOST CASES is not one-sided". You certainly did not claim that it merely CAN or is POSSIBLE to be two-sided. Should I go back and get your actual comment?

If you want, go ahead. Because if you recall, the debate since last year, has been about defining the word "abuse". And agressive arguments are abusive and therefore abuse. okay?
So most abuse is two way, because verbal assaults are abuse also. It is only your narrow view of the word that stops this debate going any further. We are not really arguing anything.

 

[JoStories]

Brought about through feminism destroying the family and men seeing their true value in the eyes of women. Interestingly it seems, men have feelings too.

If you do some sociological research, you will find that men cheating on women and the pervasive patriarchal attitude men had toward women in the first half of the last century, you will learn it was men who led to familial destruction. Not women, nor feminism. It would seem, at least to me, that you have some very serious issues with women in general.

 

[Robert.Evans]

I shall be a witness that he really did say that after separating from an abusive husband it is God's will, says he, that you should not remarry.

That you did remarry makes you a sinner against God, according to some people. That is assumed because people have brains with nervous connections.

And so you make a mountain out of a mole hill and leave the rest of the post out. Thanks.

 

[savagewind]

Correct. Now let's argue about it

What defines domestic abuse is the habitual use of verbal or physical force to get what is desired.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Here is what he originally said:
Abuse, whatever it might be, is not usually onesided.
That was said by him on page 18 I believe

Link?
And if you focus on the words "whatever it might be" we might now not be arguing about nothing. Whatever it might be includes arguments as they are abuse. Do you get it yet yet?

 

[Robert.Evans]

If you do some sociological research, you will find that men cheating on women and the pervasive patriarchal attitude men had toward women in the first half of the last century, you will learn it was men who led to familial destruction. Not women, nor feminism. It would seem, at least to me, that you have some very serious issues with women in general.

Your comment would say the same to me about your attitudes towards men. But I have posted quotes on women who said they wanted to destroy the family. Ignore it as much as you want. But it is still true.

 

[savagewind]

And so you make a mountain out of a mole hill and leave the rest of the post out. Thanks.

You're welcome?
It is written that a woman must not leave her husband (except for one situation) so that's that.
But it is also written that a person should not speak worthless words. Anybody doing that?