Your Reasons for Voting for Trump

[Kooky]

You accused conservatives of trying to run the country like the old Testament. You failed to support your silly claim.

And yet you feel just fine claiming that schools force kids to be gay without even the slightest shred of evidence.

 

[Sand Dancer]

You accused conservatives of trying to run the country like the old Testament. You failed to support your silly claim.

Conservative Christians exclusively use their religion in government. I gave examples that are currently being implemented in some states. Our country cannot favor any specific religion, but sadly, it has done so in the past. No more proselytizing in schools.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

So does everyone, but that doesn't stop evangelicals from trying to make our country run by the Old Testament.

Care to give an example?

For many, voting for Trump was definitely a push back against secularism and an attempt to bring Christianity front and center in politics.

Make America Christian Again: Christian Nationalism and Voting for Donald Trump in the 2016 Presidential Election

 

[KW]

And yet you feel just fine claiming that schools force kids to be gay without even the slightest shred of evidence.

You just make things up frequently.

Why?

 

[KW]

Conservative Christians exclusively use their religion in government. I gave examples that are currently being implemented in some states. Our country cannot favor any specific religion, but sadly, it has done so in the past. No more proselytizing in schools.

You gave no examples of any coercive effort.

It was all assumption and propaganda.

 

[Revoltingest]

You gave no examples of any coercive effort.

Testifying in court (in my experience) requires
swearing to God. If one wants a secular oath,
this requires requesting it. The court thus makes
it know who is a heathen, which could work against
one by judge or jury.

 

[Stevicus]

Testifying in court (in my experience) requires
swearing to God. If one wants a secular oath,
this requires requesting it. The court thus makes
it know who is a heathen, which could work against
one by judge or jury.

Can one request to take an oath to Satan?

 

[Revoltingest]

Can one request to take an oath to Satan?

One could.
Would it be granted?
I doubt it.

 

[metis]

For many, voting for Trump was definitely a push back against secularism and an attempt to bring Christianity front and center in politics.

Make America Christian Again: Christian Nationalism and Voting for Donald Trump in the 2016 Presidential Election

Which begs the question as to whether it's more Christian or more secular as I see the latter as being the main driving force for so many? Trump's words and actions simply do not reflect the words and actions of Jesus-- not even close.

 

[KW]

Testifying in court (in my experience) requires
swearing to God. If one wants a secular oath,
this requires requesting it. The court thus makes
it know who is a heathen, which could work against
one by judge or jury.

What is the coercive action?

Also, what does this have to do with conservative Christians?

This is a practice that goes back for centuries in multiple cultures.

 

[KW]

For many, voting for Trump was definitely a push back against secularism and an attempt to bring Christianity front and center in politics.

Make America Christian Again: Christian Nationalism and Voting for Donald Trump in the 2016 Presidential Election

Quoting the opinions of a leftist think tank is not a good way to understand why the average Trump voter made his decision.

I gave you my reasons and I think the people I know would agree with the reasons I provided.

Leftists seem to reach for the fringe and then try to use their views to slur the other 95% of Trump voters.

 

[KW]

Which begs the question as to whether it's more Christian or more secular as I see the latter as being the main driving force for so many? Trump's words and actions simply do not reflect the words and actions of Jesus-- not even close.

Trump's polices support moral behavior.

Trump's polices reduced poverty and increased religious liberty.

Trump's policies were pro law and order and anti crime.

Crime is skyrocketing under Biden, especially in liberal cities, because Democrats support criminals rather than victims.

 

[Revoltingest]

What is the coercive action?

That to testify, one must either say a Christian oath,
or announce that one isn't a Christian. Judges &
juries should not be made aware of religious affiliation.

Also, what does this have to do with conservative Christians?

Conservative, along with many liberal Christians
assume their religion is The Religion of the state,
& impose it upon others.

This is a practice that goes back for centuries in multiple cultures.

Many practices go back for centuries, eg, slavery,
witch burning, lynching, unlimited police power.
Does this make them right?

If you had a Satanic judge & Satanic jury, & were
required to swear an oath to Satan, would you
believe this to be fair?

 

[Secret Chief]

Testifying in court (in my experience) requires
swearing to God. If one wants a secular oath,
this requires requesting it. The court thus makes
it know who is a heathen, which could work against
one by judge or jury.

Sounds pretty standard for a theocracy.

 

[KW]

That to testify, one must either say a Christian oath,
or announce that one isn't a Christian. Judges &
juries should not be made aware of religious affiliation.

Conservative, along with many liberal Christians
assume their religion is The Religion of the state,
& impose it upon others.

Many practices go back for centuries, eg, slavery,
witch burning, lynching, unlimited police power.
Does this make them right?

If you had a Satanic judge & Satanic jury, & were
required to swear an oath to Satan, would you
believe this to be fair?

You just said that they could use a secular oath.

Is it oaths in general that you oppose?

This is a legal standard that allows for perjury prosecutions.

What good is a legal statement if there is no consequence for lying?

 

[metis]

Trump's polices support moral behavior.

Oh really? Is that why there's so many investigations based on his behavior and those of his supporters? Is that why his "fixer" and Trump's sister say that he's as dishonest as the day is long?

Maybe reread the Sermon On the Mount from Jesus and then watch one of Trump's rallies, and then tell us that they are similar in character and basic Judeo-Christian morality.

Trump's polices reduced poverty and increased religious liberty.

Tell that to Muslims that he tried to totally ban coming into this country, only modifying it when he was told that this would be judged unconstitutional. And Biden is putting a huge dent in poverty as our unemployment rate is the lowest in over four decades but I haven't read anything you post that says that.

Trump's policies were pro law and order and anti crime.

Oh, like when he told police not to be so nice when they arrest people? And if he was so law & order, then why so many investigations and why two impeachments?

BTW, Biden has stated that he wants more police, but maybe you didn't get his memo.

Crime is skyrocketing under Biden, especially in liberal cities, because Democrats support criminals rather than victims.

Another blatant stereotype, because if you actually did your homework you would actually know that red states have a higher overall crime rate, including homicides, than blue states. I can prove that, if you ask.

 

[Revoltingest]

You just said that they could use a secular oath.

Did you miss the part that asking for one puts
the court on notice that one isn't a Christian?
There just might could possibly cause some
prejudice against the one testifying.

Is it oaths in general that you oppose?

I don't see the need, but if the oath is just
an affirmation to be truthful, their GOD has
nothing to do with it. He obviously hasn't
made Christians all that honest.

This is a legal standard that allows for perjury prosecutions.

It's not necessary. For example, lying to a
cop is a crime without ever swearing an oath
or even being put on notice that it's a crime.

But that's beside the point about having the
court made aware that one isn't Christian,
& the risk of prejudice against one.

What good is a legal statement if there is no consequence for lying?

Not the point at all.

 

[KW]

Did you miss the part that asking for one puts
the court on notice that one isn't a Christian?
There just might could possibly cause some
prejudice against the one testifying.

I don't see the need, but if the oath is just
an affirmation to be truthful, their GOD has
nothing to do with it. He obviously hasn't
made Christians all that honest.

It's not necessary. For example, lying to a
cop is a crime without ever swearing an oath
or even being put on notice that it's a crime.

But that's beside the point about having the
court made aware that one isn't Christian,
& the risk of prejudice against one.

Not the point at all.

This is trivial and has nothing to do with conservatives wanting to impose an Old Testament theocracy on America.

Straw dog.

 

[Revoltingest]

This is trivial and has nothing to do with conservatives wanting to impose an Old Testament theocracy on America.

Straw dog.

To Christians, imposing Christianity on others always
seems trivial. But to non-Christians, it matters more.
To endure prejudice in court is more serious than you
realize.

You missed this question...
If you had a Satanic judge & Satanic jury, & were
required to swear an oath to Satan, would you
believe this to be fair?

 

[KW]

Oh really? Is that why there's so many investigations based on his behavior and those of his supporters? Is that why his "fixer" and Trump's sister say that he's as dishonest as the day is long?

Maybe reread the Sermon On the Mount from Jesus and then watch one of Trump's rallies, and then tell us that they are similar in character and basic Judeo-Christian morality.

Tell that to Muslims that he tried to totally ban coming into this country, only modifying it when he was told that this would be judged unconstitutional. And Biden is putting a huge dent in poverty as our unemployment rate is the lowest in over four decades but I haven't read anything you post that says that.

Oh, like when he told police not to be so nice when they arrest people? And if he was so law & order, then why so many investigations and why two impeachments?

BTW, Biden has stated that he wants more police, but maybe you didn't get his memo.

Another blatant stereotype, because if you actually did your homework you would actually know that red states have a higher overall crime rate, including homicides, than blue states. I can prove that, if you ask.

Democrats like prosecuting Republicans for fantasy crimes, like impeaching Trump for no reason and spending billions trying to support Hillary's lie that Trump was a Russian ally. Idiocy.

You just keep repeating Leftist lies. Trump didn't ban Muslims from entering the country, just limited immigration from some terrorist states.

Red states often have liberal cities. You can't blame conservatives for the crime due to lack of proper law enforcement in Democrat cities.