Yadavas Hebrews farmers. How come Jews thought Hebrews were slaves?

[Bharat Jhunjhunwala]

Look, I'm making a very simple comment that doesn't even require a response. Quote:

That means the story of the Exodus in the book of Genesis is referring to Egypt, not to anyplace in India or elsewhere in the world.as you

Look, I'm making a very simple comment that doesn't even require a response. Quote:

That means the story of the Exodus in the book of Genesis is referring to Egypt, not to anyplace in India or elsewhere in the world.

We need to look out of the box to resolve the problems

 

[Bharat Jhunjhunwala]

Even the Amarna letters from the time period of the exodus TO THE KING OF EGYPT repeatedly call the land of Egypt Mi-is-ri-mi. The Egyptian pharaoh wasn't in India, and the letters themselves were found in Egypt. It looks pretty conclusive to me.

All this after 1400 bce. Where is mitsrayim at the time of abraham?

 

[IndigoChild5559]

We need to look out of the box to resolve the problems

There is no problem. The information I gave resolves the issue.

 

[crossfire]

All this after 1400 bce. Where is mitsrayim at the time of abraham?

The Book of Genesis wasn't written down until the time of the Exodus, when the writing system of the Hebrews began to appear.

 

[crossfire]

All this after 1400 bce. Where is mitsrayim at the time of abraham?

Oh, in case you missed my edit on the post you quoted, here is my edit:

The Egyptians called the fertile Nile Valley "Kemet" (or more fully tꜣ km.t.,) The Black Land, whereas they called the desert The Red Land, or "Deshret." (This is probably where we get the word Desert from.)

The Egyptian empire contained both the Black Land and the Red Land. They lived mostly in the Black Land.​

 

[Bharat Jhunjhunwala]

Oh, in case you missed my edit on the post you quoted, here is my edit:

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The Egyptians called the fertile Nile Valley "Kemet" (or more fully tꜣ km.t.,) The Black Land, whereas they called the desert The Red Land, or "Deshret." (This is probably where we get the word Desert from.)​

​

The Egyptian empire contained both the Black Land and the Red Land. They lived mostly in the Black Land​

Oh, in case you missed my edit on the post you quoted, here is my edit:

​

The Egyptians called the fertile Nile Valley "Kemet" (or more fully tꜣ km.t.,) The Black Land, whereas they called the desert The Red Land, or "Deshret." (This is probably where we get the word Desert from.)​

​

The Egyptian empire contained both the Black Land and the Red Land. They lived mostly in the Black Land.​

Besides the point. There is no mitsrayim.

 

[Bharat Jhunjhunwala]

The Book of Genesis wasn't written down until the time of the Exodus, when the writing system of the Hebrews began to appear.

Besides the point. Where is mitsrayim.

 

[crossfire]

Besides the point. Where is mitsrayim.

It's Egypt. Letters to the Pharoah of Egypt from the time of the Exodus call the land of Egypt Misirim. You can't avoid that.

 

[Bharat Jhunjhunwala]

There is no problem. The information I gave resolves the issue.

It's Egypt. Letters to the Pharoah of Egypt from the time of the Exodus call the land of Egypt Misirim. You can't avoid that.

I know. Amarna. 1400 bce. AFTER Exodus. And what about Abraham's mitsrayim? Egyptians have to own the name not a solitary outsider. See this together with no yamsuf, no volcano, no paran, no second yamsuf, so on and on and on.

 

[crossfire]

I know. Amarna. 1400 bce. AFTER Exodus. And what about Abraham's mitsrayim? Egyptians have to own the name not a solitary outsider. See this together with no yamsuf, no volcano, no paran, no second yamsuf, so on and on and on.

Hebrew did not have writing at the time of Abraham. As for the Amarna letters, they come from many different kingdoms, and call Egypt Misrim to the Egyptian King. Some of them are to earlier Pharaohs, like Amenhotep III. I would hardly call that a solitary outsider.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Besides the point. There is no mitsrayim.

What?????? Well, sure. Just like there is no Canaan, no Moab, no Babylon. Got it.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

It's Egypt. Letters to the Pharoah of Egypt from the time of the Exodus call the land of Egypt Misirim. You can't avoid that.

It's interesting, but unnecessary. The question is concerning the book of Genesis, which is written in Hebrew, and in HEBREW Mitzrayim is the word for Egypt. While noticing the common etyomology between Mitrayim and Misrim is fascinating, it is not necessary to make my point.

 

[crossfire]

It's interesting, but unnecessary. The question is concerning the book of Genesis, which is written in Hebrew, and in HEBREW Mitzrayim is the word for Egypt. While noticing the common etyomology between Mitrayim and Misrim is fascinating, it is not necessary to make my point.

Most of the Amarna letters are written in Akkadian cuneiform, although some are written in Hurrian or Ugarit, which also uses a similar word for the land of Egypt.

 

[Bharat Jhunjhunwala]

Hebrew did not have writing at the time of Abraham. As for the Amarna letters, they come from many different kingdoms, and call Egypt Misrim to the Egyptian King. Some of them are to earlier Pharaohs, like Amenhotep III. I would hardly call that a solitary outsider.

We dont know whether they had writing. Be that as it may, they had oral traditions. So where was mitsrayim of abraham?
And the Amarna letters from many different kingdoms are all after 1400 bce.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

We dont know whether they had writing. Be that as it may, they had oral traditions. So where was mitsrayim of abraham?
And the Amarna letters from many different kingdoms are all after 1400 bce.

Again, if you are talking about Abraham, you are talking about the book of Genesis, which is written in Hebrew. The ONLY item of importance is what Mitzrayim means in Hebrew, which is Egypt.

 

[Bharat Jhunjhunwala]

Again, if you are talking about Abraham, you are talking about the book of Genesis, which is written in Hebrew. The ONLY item of importance is what Mitzrayim means in Hebrew, which is Egypt.

Suit yourself

 

[crossfire]

We dont know whether they had writing. Be that as it may, they had oral traditions. So where was mitsrayim of abraham?
And the Amarna letters from many different kingdoms are all after 1400 bce.

Abraham's Mizraim was Egypt. The verses even use the word Paro to denote the Egyptian Pharaoh, instead of the word Melek, which is used to denote Kings of other countries.

 

[Bharat Jhunjhunwala]

Suit

Abraham's Mizraim was Egypt.

Suit yourself. No hard feelings.

 

[River Sea]

@Bthoth @Bharat Jhunjhunwala @crossfire

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The Creator was called Ra, Amum-Ra and El. The Creator's son was called Horus

What Language Did Abraham Speak?

The world known to the early Hebrew. Alice C. Linsley The best evidence to date suggests that Abraham and his Hebrew ancestors spoke...

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Alice C. LinsleyDecember 12, 2015 at 12:19 PM
Bethlehem was a Horite settlement. It is associated with the Horites in I Chronicles 4:4 which names Hur (Hor) as the "father of Bethlehem." Rahab of Jericho was the wife of Salmon, the son of Hur or HR (Hebrew has no vowels). Salmon is called the "father of Bethlehem" in 1 Chronicles 2:54. Rahab was the grandmother of Boaz who married Ruth. Salmon is a Horite name associated with Bethlehem in 1 Chronicles 2:51.

The Creator was called Ra, Amum-Ra and El. The Creator's son was called Horus. He was born of Hathor who conceived when she was "overshadowed" by the Sun. Luke 1:35: The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God."

See this: The Urheimat of the Canaanite Y

And this: The Ra-Horus-Hathor Narrative

 

[Bthoth]

@Bthoth @Bharat Jhunjhunwala @crossfire

What is this about?
The Creator was called Ra, Amum-Ra and El. The Creator's son was called Horus

What Language Did Abraham Speak?

The world known to the early Hebrew. Alice C. Linsley The best evidence to date suggests that Abraham and his Hebrew ancestors spoke...

biblicalanthropology.blogspot.com

Alice C. LinsleyDecember 12, 2015 at 12:19 PM
Bethlehem was a Horite settlement. It is associated with the Horites in I Chronicles 4:4 which names Hur (Hor) as the "father of Bethlehem." Rahab of Jericho was the wife of Salmon, the son of Hur or HR (Hebrew has no vowels). Salmon is called the "father of Bethlehem" in 1 Chronicles 2:54. Rahab was the grandmother of Boaz who married Ruth. Salmon is a Horite name associated with Bethlehem in 1 Chronicles 2:51.

The Creator was called Ra, Amum-Ra and El. The Creator's son was called Horus. He was born of Hathor who conceived when she was "overshadowed" by the Sun. Luke 1:35: The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God."

See this: The Urheimat of the Canaanite Y

And this: The Ra-Horus-Hathor Narrative

Thanks for the additional information. I enjoy reading from people willing to learn beyond the accepted authorities.