Nimos
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Obviously nothing as such prevent God from wanting to do as you suggest, but to me its merely a way to create unnecessary excuses.I assume you are referring to the Bible. Why do you assume that God wanted to make it clear to everyone? Maybe there was a reason why God did not care if it was clear to everyone or maybe God wanted to leave it to everyone to figure it out as best they could, knowing that in the future it would be explained so everyone could understand it.
Could God not care to reveal the truth to everyone? Sure, but it doesn't offer a reasonable explanation for why this should be the case. The one you jump to, is then that this is done through messengers, because the messengers themselves say so. But that doesn't offer any explanation to why God would not reveal himself to everyone and it allow these self proclaimed messengers to decide what others ought to believe in.
This is not an effective way for God to reveal himself to people
If God is able to reveal himself to the Jews, he would be able to reveal himself to others as well. He could have done this with the same teachings as he gave the Jews. So they would share the same stories. The reason this would make little sense, is because the Jews was his chosen people. This is the absolute most logic explanation. So im talking about that we would find writings from the Norsemen showing the exact same stories as those revealed to the Jews, and we would find them all over Earth. But we don't.How would it be possible to reveal ALL the teachings in the Bible to every single person in the world living back when the Bible was written, and how would people remember all those?
This is what I think is the biggest issue, the assumption that these messengers for whatever reason is needed. Nothing in relationship to God and what he is capable of requires messengers. So adding a need for them, requires an explanation and also evidence for why these are even messengers in the first place.Why isn’t it okay for God to explain it to a Messenger who writes it in scriptures, after which time we can read what He wrote? Why should God explain it to each and every human being in the world?
You have already listed a lot of things that you believe are evidence, but which are not.
If I recall correctly, one of the evidence is the person and life of Baha'u'llah, this is not evidence for anything related to whether or not he is a messenger or not.
By far the majority of people can understand the whole concept of God, some might not care about it, because they might be lost simply hearing the idea of angels, God talking snakes and donkeys. But its not the same as them not understanding it, if all of this were probably explained to them. Again these things in their basic form are not all that complicated, they simply make no sense due to the lack of explanations and contradictions, both within the scriptures themselves and between people.It is not a matter of whether there is a reason for it or not. People are either capable of understanding God speaking to them directly or they are not. This of course depends upon the nature of God and the nature of humans, how the human brain was created.
No one on Earth, could make a reasonable argument for why Christianity or Bahai faith is to be believed more than Norse mythology is, for instant, its purely based on faith.
No of them are explained. Me writing down answers to these questions and claiming that God told me, doesn't make it true. You can choose to believe that, Im a messenger as well or you can not. And that is why Bahai faith offers as much explanation to these things as the bible does or any other scripture for that matter. None of it can be verified or tested for its validity. So either you can accept that, which is what most believers does or you can stay skeptical and say that until evidence are actually produced, there is no reason to jump to conclusions, which is what atheists do.The answers to those questions have been explained in scriptures, so why would God need to explain the same thing to each and every human being in the world? If you cannot find the answers in the Bible, you can find them in the Baha’i Writings.
You own example illustrate the conflict, so not really sure how you don't see them being in conflict?I do not remember us talking about that. I do not see how those are in conflict. If God ordained Baha’u’llah or Jesus or any Prophet to be a Messenger, God is not going to allow someone to interfere with the mission being accomplished and the message getting out, because God is omnipotent so God can override the free will of anyone who might try to do such a thing.
If you have free will, but the moment you plan on doing anything that would interfere with a prophecy, God override the free will, then there is no free will. Because what you wanted to do is no longer an option.
But nothing prevent everyone from doing it right? Due to our free will or again does God override it so at least some people have to believe to carry on the message?No, it does not matter if almost everyone rejected God’s teachings and laws because there would be a few people who accepted them...
I don't really know how to answer this, except I really is not sure what a divine mind is.. or how one would demonstrate it. It seems a lot like just adding stuff to something for which there is already lacking explanations.We have a rational mind but we do not have a divine mind. Only a man with a divine mind can understand communication from God.
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