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World's worst philosopher

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by syo, May 22, 2022.

  1. syo

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    SOCRATES. o_O

    There is nothing good with. By far horrible.
     
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    I definitely think Kant and Foucault are worse.
     
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  3. syo

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    Yup, these two too. But Socrates is even worse, I hate his lectures. Yuk!
     
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    I can think of Nietzsche, yet I still end up agreeing with quite a few of their quotes.
     
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    What's the problem with Socrates? Please elaborate...
     
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  6. syo

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    He takes his assumptions for granted and then does ridiculous dialogues.
     
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    I see him as a demented clown.
     
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    @syo :p. He makes claims without giving any reasons.
     
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    syo Well-Known Member

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    I wanted it to take it off my chest. Damn, I feel better! :cool::)
     
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    The dialogues were a literary device, apparently invented by Plato to showcase Socrates' method of reasoning. Plato's Republic was written 2300 years ago in a culture in many ways utterly alien to our own. The fact that it is accessible to the modern reader, suggests it's been a successful device, which has stood the test of time rather well.

    It does require a bit of effort on the part of the modern reader, but so does Homer. I'm sure if Socrates and Plato had access to Twitter, they'd have been pithier.
     
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    His method was maieutics. Very sneaky and appauling. Socrates drive the dialogue with maieutics and claimed the reasult was the person's and not socrates' doing. What a horrible CONARTIST.
     
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    Brainwash stood time. :eek:
     
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    I love Socrates.
    He and Descartes are my favorite ones.
    I like all philosophers...somehow...but, because of my personal views, I do not side with Augustine and Aquinas.
     
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    That would be Plato then (Socrates is his philosophical character). ;) But I disagree!

    I’d say Sartre. Because -although absolutely fascinating- not only was he insanely long-winded, but also a master at expressing his ideas in the most incomprehensible of ways. :dizzy:


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    Socrates (like Jesus and the Buddha) never wrote anything down though, did he? So we have to rely on his followers to recount his message.

    I'd agree that Socrates' philosophy is nowhere near as clear or accessible, nor as elegant, as the messages of both Jesus and the Buddha.
     
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    Thank you. The teachings make me furious, not the Historical Figures. Socrates Jesus and Buddha are judged for their work indirectly I agree, but the historical actual persons are a bit unimportant. The teachings make me furious. :)
     
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    I've heard that hypothesis and I have to say it is possible. But even then is it OK to talk about Socrates, his method and his philosophy. We have those through Plato it changes nothing if Socrates was real or imagined.
     
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    I read La Nausea about 40 years ago, my God it was depressing. I wonder was Sartre in fact clinically depressed when he wrote it? In fact, is existentialism really depression expressed as a philosophy?
    Camus' L'Etranger is not so easily dismissed though, tbf.
     
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    For a spin..... Among the best philosophers, not the worst, I would say Thomas Aquinas. There are a few others I like too, but I'd have to use Google to refresh my memory before speaking on them very intimately.

    It's also not that Thomas Aquinas is my main, a few are my main, but he's certainly up there.
     
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    I sometimes wondered if one perhaps needed to already be a little depressed to even get through those texts in the first place.

    I’m being harsh of course; there’s a whole world of Sartre-fans out there! I’m just not deep enough to understand him without the assistance of a good synopsis.


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