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Will they call it "Wyxit?"

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
"If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede," the late Associate Justice Antonin Scalia wrote in 2006.​
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
Staff member
Premium Member
Do you think if states wishing to secede were allowed to do so, it would ease up some of the tension in the country? Or would it perhaps make it worse?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Some i find funny
FLXIT
INXIT
MEXIT
MAXIT
MIXIT
MOXIT
NEXIT
PAXIT
RIXIT
VAXIT
WIXIT

Give Britain a few months to see how Brexit works for them, then decide
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
Threats of a US State's secession always make me chuckle......but heck, its Wyoming...would we miss it...besides..it's surrounded by Idaho, Utah, Colorado, Nebraska, South Dakota, Montana...can you imagine the trade tariffs.......at least Texas and California had a coast line for trade when they threatened secession
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
Welcome to Right Wing politics

Divide & Conquer

Lest we forget.....California threatened it when Trump was elected and they re not right wing and Texas threatened it when Obama was elected...it is not right or left...it is just silly butt hurt politics
 

esmith

Veteran Member
"If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede," the late Associate Justice Antonin Scalia wrote in 2006.​
From: Could States Really Secede from the Union?
What Scalia probably meant to say was that there is no unilateral right to secede. One state can't just say, “The heck with you, U.S.A. We're out of here."

What a state (or states) can do, however, is begin the process of seeking a mutually agreed upon parting of the ways, and that process clearly exists, set forth by the U.S. Supreme Court in its 1868 ruling in Texas v. White. That ruling concluded that a state (or states) could secede by gaining approval of both houses of Congress and then obtaining ratification by three fourths of the nation's legislatures. In other words, it's a tough task.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
From: Could States Really Secede from the Union?
What Scalia probably meant to say was that there is no unilateral right to secede. One state can't just say, “The heck with you, U.S.A. We're out of here."

What a state (or states) can do, however, is begin the process of seeking a mutually agreed upon parting of the ways, and that process clearly exists, set forth by the U.S. Supreme Court in its 1868 ruling in Texas v. White. That ruling concluded that a state (or states) could secede by gaining approval of both houses of Congress and then obtaining ratification by three fourths of the nation's legislatures. In other words, it's a tough task.

But can you imagine the money and jobs, not to mention protection they would lose. Protection might not be big deal for Wyoming since it is land locked, but all federal jobs, federal programs and funding go away, And then Wyoming would need a trade agreement
 

esmith

Veteran Member
But can you imagine the money and jobs, not to mention protection they would lose. Protection might not be big deal for Wyoming since it is land locked, but all federal jobs, federal programs and funding go away, And then Wyoming would need a trade agreement
It will not happen in my lifetime nor yours IMO. However nothing says that other States wouldn't join them.
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
But can you imagine the money and jobs, not to mention protection they would lose. Protection might not be big deal for Wyoming since it is land locked, but all federal jobs, federal programs and funding go away, And then Wyoming would need a trade agreement
While the state provides the personnel for the national guard, the actual equipment of defense is owned by the federal government...unlikely that the government would ever let much of that go...
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
While the state provides the personnel for the national guard, the actual equipment of defense is owned by the federal government...unlikely that the government would ever let much of that go...

Not to mention about 70,000 federal jobs going away...and highway funding...education funding and any other federal funding they currently receive
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Not to mention about 70,000 federal jobs going away...and highway funding...education funding and any other federal funding they currently receive
Of course, fed taxes go away too, freeing up a great deal of money.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
Of course, fed taxes go away too, freeing up a great deal of money.

true.....but 70,000 less folks would be paying taxes....likely more. There are a lot of folks who do not work for the federales, but their job, or company depends on them
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
true.....but 70,000 less folks would be paying taxes....likely more. There are a lot of folks who do not work for the federales, but their job, or company depends on them
There's also the question of who would own
lands formerly federal
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
There's also the question of who would own
lands formerly federal

Could be the federal government still owns it...unless they want to purchase it...kind of like a consulate on foreign soil....that was previously owned by the USA...And here is another thing....are they still US citizens.....now living in a foreign land....if so...they still get taxed by the USA
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
"If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede," the late Associate Justice Antonin Scalia wrote in 2006.​
This seems a little unfair and less than democratic.
 
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