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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by RayofLight, Apr 7, 2021 at 9:44 AM.

  1. 1213

    1213 Well-Known Member

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    I would like to know, why do you want to do so?
     
  2. RayofLight

    RayofLight They/Them

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    I first want to know your motive for asking.
    Do you truly want to know and understand or do you ask to do so in order to tell me how wrong I am and that it's evil? Or do you have other motives?
     
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  3. Trailblazer

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    That reminds me of something rather funny that happened in my office a few years ago. There was one atheist coworker Bill and my Christian coworker gave him this small wooden cross she had made. I will never forget the day he came into our office and gave her that cross back, the look on his face as he returned it to her. He retired a few years after that, I really miss Bill.
     
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  4. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein Caritas Christi Urget Nos
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    What you are expecting is totally unrealistic. You are saying that religious people basically should not allow their religious beliefs to influence their social or political views (only if they disagree with yours, right?). If course people are going to vote their views, and many people are religious so their their political views and votes will reflect that. That's just how it is.
     
  5. TagliatelliMonster

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    Honestly... personally, I'ld go on the offensive just to annoy them.
    I'ld be all in their face and make sure I'm well within my constitutional rights and tick them off on purpose.

    People might think that makes me an a-hole, but the way I see it... it is no different then standing up to a bully in high school.

    Sure, I got beatings back then. I didn't care. I did my very best to stand up to them and tick them off just because I could.

    And in the end, it was the bully every time that was sent to the principal's office and who got into trouble.
    It also exposed them to the other kids for the bullies that they were.

    I got quite good at cracking them in the end, lol.
    It actually earned me quite a reputation in senior years. Bullies knew to stay away from me. Not because I'ld beat them up, because I wouldn't. But they knew that picking a fight with me would only make them end up in detention. And not because of me snitching. Rather because I became a master at trapping them, hahaha.
     
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  6. Trailblazer

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    I kind of understand how you feel because at work most of the people in the office with were Christians and there were no Baha'is, so being a Baha'i was not exactly something that was accepted. I gravitated towards the few atheists and agnostics in the office because they were more accepting of me and my beliefs.
     
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  7. Trailblazer

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    The same applies to me as a Baha'i in a predominantly Christian nation. :D
     
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  8. TagliatelliMonster

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    Not having 26 bishops in permanent seats in an official governmental institution in what is supposed to be a secular nation, is "unrealistic"?

    I disagree.
    But I guess you speak of the whole gay marriage / abortion / euthanasia thingy. :)

    No.

    I'm saying policy makers of a secular democracy should use secular arguments to defend their views instead of religious ones.

    Off course, it's kind of hard to make a secular argument against something like homosexual orientation and equal rights for all.

    Not at all.
    I welcome views that disagree with mine. I welcome that discussion and debate as it will likely lead to both parties learning and expanding their minds.

    In fact, nothing sounds more boring then a society where everybody agrees on everything.

    I just prefer rational discourse over superstitious ramblings.
    Having said that, technically, superstitious ramblings as arguments in a debate between policy makers in a secular society is unconstitutional and irrelevant.

    I'm not talking about voters. I'm talking about policy makers.
     
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  9. Israel Khan

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    I would probably do the same. As a JW I had no problem telling other Christians what group I belonged to so I have received the same vitriol as the Satanists would. I must say, it is exhilarating to see people squirm. I would watch Marilyn Manson interviews for inspiration.

    A lot of Christians have no problem condemning those they see as sinners so I would say that it is no different to how they behave.

    You are a legend! I would have loved to see how you trapped them at school.
     
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  10. Earthtank

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    That's one helluva slippery slope that will only end in disaster since that's very subjective. What Hitler did was "legal, decent and honest" from his point of view
     
  11. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein Caritas Christi Urget Nos
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    I see. I cannot comment on the British system of things as I am American and our political system is different here.
     
  12. stvdv

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    Many "desire to impose their religion on you" ... this is just another example. It's mainly an Abrahamic issue, hence living in the West you will have that a lot. In Holland, where I live, it was only ca. 100 years ago that 99.9% of all the Dutch people were Christians, and very big on evangelizing, imposing on others

    Such attitude, which is arrogance, won't be rooted out easily, because arrogance means "I know best", so not open for change
    @stvdvRF
     
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  13. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    You think genocide is decent?

    And the lies be told to get his country behind him can hardly be called honest.
     
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    You should not. The hypocrisy of pontificating people is actually rampant, or we'd not have to languish under their weight. But alas, they've tilted the Earth's axis a bit more: whiplash from changing their minds so suddenly. Freedom of religion can be an elusive thing, a liberty you eventually harness by making "lemonade out of lemons" in the most judgemental of social scenes.
     
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  15. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    What does a Luceriferian altar look like?
    What would be upon it?

    Does anybody have a picture, please?
     
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  16. RayofLight

    RayofLight They/Them

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    An altar can look anyway a person likes it to. It can be as much as just a bowl or very complex with tons of stuff
     
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    RayofLight They/Them

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    @oldbadger
    Once I set it up would you like for me to pm you a picture? Itll take a few days.
     
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  18. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    It seems black candles, skulls and dead chickens are not compulsory
     
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    So disappointed:(
     
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  20. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Hey you can use them if you want but there is no law to say you ned them.
     
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