Why should husband and wife/wives own property jointly?

[paarsurrey]

Sometimes or even often while a discussion is proceeding reasonably, an issue comes in between that could derail the discussion.
This happened with the thread "Quran and women", and the issue that came in between is jointly owning the property/ies by husband and wife/wives. I want that we should discuss the rationale of owning the property/ies jointly by husband and wife/wives separately here.
Everybody and anybody could join the discussion.

Regards

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Me and my late wife shared and owned everthing jointly.
It worked for us.
Not that we shared clothing...? But we shared the money we spent on them.

 

[paarsurrey]

For seeing the discussion on the topic "Quran and Women", please click the post # below:

Post #160
Paarsurrey wrote:

We discuss verse by verse, the verses in the context as mentioned in post #2

The Holy Quran : Chapter 4: Al-Nisa'النِّسَاء
[4:30] O ye who believe! devour not your property among yourselves by unlawful means, except that you earn by trade with mutual consent. And kill not yourselves. Surely, Allah is Merciful to you.
Women and men have no disparity in believing, the verse is equally valid for both. Right?
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leibowde84 said :But, what about owning property jointly as husband and wife legally? Can you address that please?


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[columbus]

Why should anyone legally own anything?

To make a distinction between producing stuff and stealing it. It is an important concept for civilised people to grasp.
Tom

 

[Iti oj]

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To make a distinction between producing stuff and stealing it. It is an important concept for civilised people to grasp.
Tom

not necessarily it could belong to the all

 

[Curious George]

Sometimes or even often while a discussion is proceeding reasonably, an issue comes in between that could derail the discussion.
This happened with the thread "Quran and women", and the issue that came in between is jointly owning the property/ies by husband and wife/wives. I want that we should discuss the rationale of owning the property/ies jointly by husband and wife/wives separately here.
Everybody and anybody could join the discussion.

Regards

Are you asking why own jointly vs. Separately? The answer is tax and inheritance.

 

[columbus]

not necessarily it could belong to the all

Well, this is too much of a derail to pursue, but no I don't think it could.
Not everything.
Tom

 

[paarsurrey]

Me and my late wife shared and owned everthing jointly.
It worked for us.
Not that we shared clothing...? But we shared the money we spent on them.

It worked for you, but will it work for the society in the East and the West equitably?
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[Draka]

Anything that is used equally by both should be considered joint property shouldn't it? Like the house itself, furniture in the house, if the couple has but one car it is joint property. Many times couples buy two of something so there is a "his" and "hers": cars, computers, phones, and so on. They may still use each other's as they are still jointly owned, but just to make things easier.

It would not make sense to me for one person in a couple to own all the property, or to divide everything up as to who owns what. To me that just lays it out there that the couple, or at least the one of them driving the whole property argument, doesn't expect to stay together and are setting things up for ease of leaving the relationship.

 

[Deidre]

Not a marriage advocate, but, if two people feel the need to bring the government into their love union lol then both should be jointly sharing property, etc.

 

[columbus]

I want that we should discuss the rationale of owning the property/ies jointly by husband and wife/wives separately here.

How about using the word "spouses", instead of husband and wive(s)? I have a spouse, but he is not my wife.

We are together as a permanent team until one of us dies. At least, that's my plan. So while there are assets I think of as mine, like my clothes, we really share everything. His name might be on the title to the car, he is the legal owner, it is really ours though. So is everything else.
To me, a relationship that isn't that way isn't really a marriage. It could be almost anything. Friends with benefits.
A man acquiring an all purpose household appliance. A woman getting a meal ticket. But not a true marriage.
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

Sometimes or even often while a discussion is proceeding reasonably, an issue comes in between that could derail the discussion.
This happened with the thread "Quran and women", and the issue that came in between is jointly owning the property/ies by husband and wife/wives. I want that we should discuss the rationale of owning the property/ies jointly by husband and wife/wives separately here.
Everybody and anybody could join the discussion.

Regards

Joint ownership is useful for real estate....
- Both have authority do do things, eg, turn on/off utilities
- Simple & tax free rights of survivorship

 

[Revoltingest]

Joint ownership is useful for real estate....
- Both have authority do do things, eg, turn on/off utilities
- Simple & tax free rights of survivorship

Why should anyone legally own anything?

It's useful for efficient resource allocation.
It encourages productivity.

 

[Father Heathen]

Why should anyone legally own anything?

Because we're not an insect colony?

 

[Revoltingest]

Because we're not an insect colony?

You say that like it's a fact or something concrete.
It's only a perspective, which depends upon one's political leanings.

 

[paarsurrey]

Are you asking why own jointly vs. Separately? The answer is tax and inheritance.

The pros and cons of owning property with the spouse or having the properties separately in the societies in the East and the West.
Regards

 

[Draka]

The pros and cons of owning property with the spouse or having the properties separately in the societies in the East and the West.
Regards

So, what do you see as the cons to joint ownership? Do you see any pros?

 

[paarsurrey]

Not a marriage advocate, but, if two people feel the need to bring the government into their love union lol then both should be jointly sharing property, etc.

What if the husband has two, three or four wives? I have only one wife, though.
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[columbus]

What if husband have two, three or four wives?
Regards

Each of them owns half the total property.
Tom
ETA I mean each of the wives. The husband brought all that on himself.

 

[Draka]

Each of them owns half the total property.
Tom

I'm not following that. Are you meaning they each own an equal portion of the property? Like, if there are 3 total spouses they each own one third of the property?