Jeremiah
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Why is it not not a paradox?
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Why is it not not a paradox?
I'm assuming you think it is a paradox because your ethical ideas of good/evil/love/God lead you to believe that love prevents evil and suffering.... whereas I don't share your assumption... so no paradox.
Why not?http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/religious-debates/55215-theodicy-problem-evil.html
Read I am not typing a book.
lead you to believe that love prevents evil and suffering....
Gotcha... again, your presumption leads you to error.Love and all-powerful not love alone.
Gotcha... again, your presumption leads you to error.
What leads you to believe that the characteristics of love and being all-powerful should force God to act to prevent suffering and evil?
faulty analogy.Yes it does, as it does too many people. What would you think of a mother that lets the father beat the child? She has the power to stop it but does not act; this is wrong.
Gotcha... again, your presumption leads you to error.
Your presumption of his presumption about your presumption leads you presumably to error.Your presumption of God leads you to error.
faulty analogy.
What would you think of somebody who allows an ant to be squished?
What would you think of an apple that beats an orange?What would you think of a mother that lets the father beat the child? She has the power to stop it but does not act; this is wrong.
Well, if you were an omnipotent being who could bend space and time to your will (and still end up with the cluster**** that is the universe) humans would be roughly at that level.Comparing a human to an ant?
I can only worry about so much.
What would you think of an apple that beats an orange?
Come on now... you can't expect this weak example to give credence to your "paradox" argument.... what if the women does NOT physically have the power to stop the act... does the act then become morally ok?
Your example should be able to prove that love alone can destroy evil..... or that suffering can be stopped by mere love alone... otherwise God's being all-powerful is not relevant.
Well, if you were an omnipotent being who could bend space and time to your will (and still end up with the cluster**** that is the universe) humans would be roughly at that level.
Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; or he can, but does not want to. If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent. If he can, but does not want to, he is wicked. If God can abolish evil, and God really wants to do it, why is there evil in the world? — Epicurus
Uh, in this theory god is omnipotent. Him loving us does not matterIn this theory God loves mankind. This is the paradox.
Uh, in this theory god is omnipotent. Him loving us does not matter
"Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit." Proverbs 26:5Name calling is name calling.
How is God being all-powerful irrelevant? You act of if God himself can not stop the suffering, or that he did not create a world where suffering exist.
How is God not responsible for the evil the exist in man he was the one that put it there. All- powerful means he can do anything. Why does evil exist? Free will? Than God is not all-powerful; an all-powerful God could give us free will without evil.
I guess I just see things differently.... you seem to think that any amount of evil and suffering in this mortal world mean that Gods' power is "limited" or that His will to free us from suffering is absent.... I disagree. The fact that God has loved us so much he came down from heaven and died a horrible death on the Cross --- the fact that he loves me for who I am and has adopted me into Himself is "justice" for any amount of suffering and evil in this world.Maybe he is not all-powerful but loves us and is unable to stop our suffering. Or maybe he is not a loving god and does not care that we so commonly wield this gift of evil he has given us.