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why is trump in the UK? is it to insult people.?

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Why is Trump here?
So far he has insulted the Mayor of London and the Duchess of Sussex.
and has interfered in the Tory party leadership election as well as suggesting that he wants to meet Nigel Farage, who has no capacity in government.
And that was before his plane touched down.
He is totally avoiding meeting or even seeing the people, by going from point to point in his helicopter and landing on private enclosed grounds.
He knows he is not wanted, he knows he can do no further business with Teresa May.
It is not only an insult it is a complete waste of British and American Public money.
All so he can be flattered by a Photo opportunity with the Queen.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Why is Trump here?
So far he has insulted the Mayor of London and the Duchess of Sussex.
and has interfered in the Tory party leadership election as well as suggesting that he wants to meet Nigel Farage, who has no capacity in government.
And that was before his plane touched down.
He is totally avoiding meeting or even seeing the people, by going from point to point in his helicopter and landing on private enclosed grounds.
He knows he is not wanted, he knows he can do no further business with Teresa May.
It is not only an insult it is a complete waste of British and American Public money.
All so he can be flattered by a Photo opportunity with the Queen.

Trump insults people everywhere.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Why is Trump here?
So far he has insulted the Mayor of London and the Duchess of Sussex.
and has interfered in the Tory party leadership election as well as suggesting that he wants to meet Nigel Farage, who has no capacity in government.
And that was before his plane touched down.
He is totally avoiding meeting or even seeing the people, by going from point to point in his helicopter and landing on private enclosed grounds.
He knows he is not wanted, he knows he can do no further business with Teresa May.
It is not only an insult it is a complete waste of British and American Public money.
All so he can be flattered by a Photo opportunity with the Queen.

He called Meghan Markle "nasty" and has now lied about that even though they have his remarks on video ..
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Why is Trump here?
So far he has insulted the Mayor of London and the Duchess of Sussex.
and has interfered in the Tory party leadership election as well as suggesting that he wants to meet Nigel Farage, who has no capacity in government.
And that was before his plane touched down.
He is totally avoiding meeting or even seeing the people, by going from point to point in his helicopter and landing on private enclosed grounds.
He knows he is not wanted, he knows he can do no further business with Teresa May.
It is not only an insult it is a complete waste of British and American Public money.
All so he can be flattered by a Photo opportunity with the Queen.
I just want to see the Baby Trump Balloon again.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Why is Trump here?
So far he has insulted the Mayor of London and the Duchess of Sussex.
and has interfered in the Tory party leadership election as well as suggesting that he wants to meet Nigel Farage, who has no capacity in government.
And that was before his plane touched down.
He is totally avoiding meeting or even seeing the people, by going from point to point in his helicopter and landing on private enclosed grounds.
He knows he is not wanted, he knows he can do no further business with Teresa May.
It is not only an insult it is a complete waste of British and American Public money.
All so he can be flattered by a Photo opportunity with the Queen.

According to some articles, it seems he's there to advocate for a new trade agreement between the US and Britain after Britain leaves the EU.

As for the insults, I guess it's a question of who insulted whom first.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
According to some articles, it seems he's there to advocate for a new trade agreement between the US and Britain after Britain leaves the EU.

As for the insults, I guess it's a question of who insulted whom first.
Aye, Khan & Trump are made for each other.
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
Because he's the President of the United States of America, our greatest ally.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
According to some articles, it seems he's there to advocate for a new trade agreement between the US and Britain after Britain leaves the EU.

As for the insults, I guess it's a question of who insulted whom first.

He has no one to to advocate with. in a few days we will have a new prime minister and a totally new cabinet. There is no one that has the authority to speak with him, that can guarantee anything.

As for insults, it is not something a grown man nor a president, should either acknowledge or partake in. it tarnishes his office.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
If Johnson becomes Prime Minister...the next G7 will be really entertaining.
Merkel and Macron totally isolated.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Because he's the President of the United States of America, our greatest ally.
America may be an important ally but far from the oldest. (Which is Portugal.)
However Trump only sees opportunities to further his own interests.
He has insufficient loyalty and honour, to anyone, to be considered an Ally.

It is probably safer to trust the Chinese than him, at least they are consistent.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
If Johnson becomes Prime Minister...the next G7 will be really entertaining.
Merkel and Macron totally isolated.

Who ever become the next Tory leader and hence prime minister is unlikely to survive the next general election.
If they take us out of the EU with out a deal, the chances of the Tories getting reelected in the foreseeable future is bleak indeed.
It could well break up the party altogether.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
He has no one to to advocate with. in a few days we will have a new prime minister and a totally new cabinet. There is no one that has the authority to speak with him, that can guarantee anything.

Well, maybe not, although it's definitely something that will likely be addressed soon, regardless of who gets in there.

As for insults, it is not something a grown man nor a president, should either acknowledge or partake in. it tarnishes his office.

Seems pretty minor to me. What tarnishes the office of president even more are the dishonest processes associated with selecting and nominating candidates to run for office, the mud-slinging, the corruption, the dirty campaign tactics (from both sides).

I also have to wonder: What was ever so "sacred" about the office of the presidency in the first place? To suggest that the office has been "tarnished" implies a belief that politics should be considered sacred and above reproach. Maybe that's how they view things in the UK, where they view royalty as being something divine and sacred, but that's not how we see things in the US.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
It is called PR for the Anglo/American alliance. That is why he is there as it is expected of him as POTUS.

Insults are just not PC Besides it is not not like those people are keeping silent themselves.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
I also have to wonder: What was ever so "sacred" about the office of the presidency in the first place? To suggest that the office has been "tarnished" implies a belief that politics should be considered sacred and above reproach. Maybe that's how they view things in the UK, where they view royalty as being something divine and sacred, but that's not how we see things in the US.

Seems more likely it is rhetoric turned into a belief over time.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Well, maybe not, although it's definitely something that will likely be addressed soon, regardless of who gets in there.



Seems pretty minor to me. What tarnishes the office of president even more are the dishonest processes associated with selecting and nominating candidates to run for office, the mud-slinging, the corruption, the dirty campaign tactics (from both sides).

I also have to wonder: What was ever so "sacred" about the office of the presidency in the first place? To suggest that the office has been "tarnished" implies a belief that politics should be considered sacred and above reproach. Maybe that's how they view things in the UK, where they view royalty as being something divine and sacred, but that's not how we see things in the US.


Actually the amount of pomp and circumstance and mystique, that surrounds the President on a daily basis, far exceeds that of the Queen in the UK.
Even today when inspecting the Guard of honour, he should have ,walked out, alongside the Prince of Wales not ahead of him. he is totally without honour. Fortunately your presidents only serve a maximum of two four year terms. so they soon get consigned to history.
The Queen has met all of them since coming to the throne, except Johnson.
At least Trump has not been honoured by being invited to speak to the joint houses of parliament.
It will be interesting to see if the Queen gives him the usual honour, and at what level.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
Why is Trump here?
So far he has insulted the Mayor of London and the Duchess of Sussex.
and has interfered in the Tory party leadership election as well as suggesting that he wants to meet Nigel Farage, who has no capacity in government.
And that was before his plane touched down.
He is totally avoiding meeting or even seeing the people, by going from point to point in his helicopter and landing on private enclosed grounds.
He knows he is not wanted, he knows he can do no further business with Teresa May.
It is not only an insult it is a complete waste of British and American Public money.
All so he can be flattered by a Photo opportunity with the Queen.
Ah, my poor Brit friend. Itś too bad that if your leader came to America, it would mean nothing to us. In fact, most Americans wouldn´t even notice, or care.

Londons mayor began the exchange of niceties by a highly derogatory op ed in a major newspaper. So, you don´t like the response, too bad.

You worry about the cost to your country of this visit, when you support an entire extended family of inbred royals in massive luxury, in perpetuity, and they do nothing more important than go to horse shows ? Your concern seems misplaced.

Another cost is the paid lefty demonstrators being bused in from all over the UK, to howl and whine, you ought to worry about that.

I have to tell you, that in the final analysis, as an American whose ancestors came from England in the 1700ś, I couldn´t care less about your opinion.

We are infinitely more important to you than you are to us. Get over it.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Actually the amount of pomp and circumstance and mystique, that surrounds the President on a daily basis, far exceeds that of the Queen in the UK.

Oh, I'm not so sure about that. The US President is routinely lampooned and roundly criticized in the press - not just with Trump, but with every individual who has held the office. Satirizing and mocking the president has practically become a US institution. Sure, there's some pomp and circumstance, "Hail to the Cheese" and all that. Much of it seems to have come into play as US military and foreign policies shifted from being more regionally-oriented to the more globalist bent which we see today.

That's the whole reason why the US President seems to hold an inordinate level of prominence in world affairs. You folks in Britain seem far more interested in US politics than vice versa.

Even today when inspecting the Guard of honour, he should have ,walked out, alongside the Prince of Wales not ahead of him. he is totally without honour. Fortunately your presidents only serve a maximum of two four year terms. so they soon get consigned to history.

I guess history will be the judge. I don't know that it really matters much who walks where while inspecting a row of guys dressed in silly-looking hats. Again, that may matter to folks in Britain, who are intense sticklers to form and the rituals of royalty. But seriously, why should anyone really care?

The Queen has met all of them since coming to the throne, except Johnson.
At least Trump has not been honoured by being invited to speak to the joint houses of parliament.
It will be interesting to see if the Queen gives him the usual honour, and at what level.
 
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