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Why do Christians oppose abortion?

Tambourine

Well-Known Member
It doesn't matter what it is to you either then, does it?

It fits the legal definition if God considers it murder. The law of the land means nothing to God, its his laws that count after all.

Murder is the "unlawful" taking of human life so God is the one who determines who is murdering and who is not in his own definition....we will account to him for all breaches of his laws.
It can only be "unlawful" if there are laws against it, right?
So if there were no laws against abortion, then it wouldn't be murder in God's eyes.

It is worth noting that most cultures, including the ancient Israelites, did not have laws against abortion or birth control until the Industrial era.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
It can only be "unlawful" if there are laws against it, right?
So if there were no laws against abortion, then it wouldn't be murder in God's eyes.

That depends.....if one is a Christian, then God’s law applies.
Those who have no interest in God’s laws can make up their own minds.

It is worth noting that most cultures, including the ancient Israelites, did not have laws against abortion or birth control until the Industrial era.

Since the sanctity of life was incorporated into God’s law, we can be sure that the Creator of life would be against abortion. In Israel, having children was seen as a blessing from God. Abortions are not mentioned, I assume because they were not much of a problem. Fornication and adultery were punishable by death, so it wasn’t a good idea to break God’s laws concerning the cause of pregnancy....

Birth control is also not mentioned. Though children were welcome in a family, and Jewish families were usually large, there is no law that said you had to have them.
 

Mitty

Active Member
Fornication and adultery were punishable by death, so it wasn’t a good idea to break God’s laws concerning the cause of pregnancy....
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Which is why the bible commands the abortions of adulteresses because of the property rights of men (Numbers 5:20-28 Leviticus 20:10), including the pregnancies of all remarried divorcees (Mark 10:11-12).

But where does the bible say that fornication (ie prostitution) is punishable by death, or did you just make that up?
 
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sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
When does God think that Life begins? He created it...
Genesis 2:7: God...breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. does breath happen at conception? Or when the newborn takes a breath for the first time?

OK lets explore John 11......
Lazarus is sick and Jesus is told about it, but refrains from going straight away and waits two more days so that he can demonstrate another wonderful aspect of the new world under the rulership of his Kingdom....resurrection of the dead. (Acts 24:15) The resurrection hope was well taught in Israel. Lazarus' sister knew about the "resurrection on the last day". What did she mean? What "last day" is this? Lazarus does not need to wait to find out.

Where did Jesus say that Lazarus was? John 11:11-14) Where did Jesus call him from (John 5:28-29) After 4 days his sister was sure that his body must now be decomposing.

What was Lazarus' story when he was brought back to life on earth....? Did he wonder why Jesus had brought him back from the spirit world only to die a second time in the future?
What was the purpose of Lazarus' resurrection as compared to John the Baptist, whom Jesus made no attempt to resurrect?
None of this addresses the issue of death being a gateway to eternal life. Try again. It's there, you just don't wan to address it.

It doesn't matter what it is to you either then, does it?
It is what it is -- not what we wish it to be.

It fits the legal definition if God considers it murder.
No it doesn't. Murder is a legal definition, not a theological definition.

The law of the land means nothing to God, its his laws that count after all.
Non-sequitur.

Murder is the "unlawful" taking of human life
Not always. "Unlawful taking of human life" can also be ruled "manslaughter," or "wrongful death." Additionally, Abortion isn't "unlawful" in this country.

You continue to make the oddest statements.....I sometimes wonder who I am talking to....
You're acting as if what you happen to believe is empirical fact. It is not.
 

Tambourine

Well-Known Member
That depends.....if one is a Christian, then God’s law applies.
Those who have no interest in God’s laws can make up their own minds.
Which parts of the Bible qualify as "God's laws" for you? Do you think Christians should adhere to the laws of the Hebrew Bible regardless of whether they were born Israelites or not?

Since the sanctity of life was incorporated into God’s law, we can be sure that the Creator of life would be against abortion.
Where does the Christian Bible talk about "the sanctity of life" specifically? Or is that something you think Christians ought to infer from the text?

In Israel, having children was seen as a blessing from God.
Do you think that this justifies forcing women to bear children against their will?
Do you not consider consent a factor at all here?

Abortions are not mentioned, I assume because they were not much of a problem.
Then what is the source of your opinion on abortion? If the Christian Bible is silent on the issue, then what other text do you recognize as the source of "God's law"?

Fornication and adultery were punishable by death, so it wasn’t a good idea to break God’s laws concerning the cause of pregnancy....

Birth control is also not mentioned. Though children were welcome in a family, and Jewish families were usually large, there is no law that said you had to have them.
Where does the Christian Bible talk about birth control, specifically? I don't think I've heard of any such passage, but I could be mistaken.
 
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