Who Wants to Live Forever? And Why?

[Penumbra]

I have been asking you for quite some time to point out where i have said that living forever would be an enjoyable situation. This is all your misunderstanding, or misrepresentation of what i have said.

Considering how you have misrepresented me so far, i don't think that your opinion on how 'i seem' to have done something holds any value.

No, you tend to employ the Socratic method in various threads. Meaning, instead of proposing anything, you tend to state that other proposals are not absolutely verifiable, even if others haven't suggested that anything is absolutely verifiable.

So you've defended the notion that 10 quadrillion years of video games may be worthwhile.

If you're not under the impression that living forever would be an enjoyable situation, then all of your posts to me have been irrelevant because my post was about how it would be unwise to agree to live forever without the option of ending it.

So why do you keep replying to me?

Because it only takes a few seconds for me to do so when it pops up in my user cp. You replied to me initially, and I've merely responded to your posts directed at me.

 

[Koldo]

No, you tend to employ the Socratic method in various threads. Meaning, instead of proposing anything, you tend to state that other proposals are not absolutely verifiable, even if others haven't suggested that anything is absolutely verifiable.

I don't state that other proposals are not absolutely verifiable.
I merely state they are, typically, nothing more than opinions and that they should be treated as such.
Opinions as such make for very weak arguments. That's the key point.

So you've defended the notion that 10 quadrillion years of video games may be worthwhile.

I didn't mean it as spending literally non-stop 10 quadrillion years playing video games. But indeed i said that video games might still be worthwhile after an obscenely high ammount of time.

If you're not under the impression that living forever would be an enjoyable situation, then all of your posts to me have been irrelevant because my post was about how it would be unwise to agree to live forever without the option of ending it.

I may disagree with the reasoning behind the conclusion and, at the same time, agree with the conclusion. Do you see any problem with that?

Because it only takes a few seconds for me to do so when it pops up in my user cp. You replied to me initially, and I've merely responded to your posts directed at me.

Oh, so we are not finished yet.

 

[Penumbra]

I don't state that other proposals are not absolutely verifiable.
I merely state they are, typically, nothing more than opinions and that they should be treated as such.
Opinions as such make for very weak arguments. That's the key point.

I didn't mean it as spending literally non-stop 10 quadrillion years playing video games. But indeed i said that video games might still be worthwhile after an obscenely high ammount of time.

I may disagree with the reasoning behind the conclusion and, at the same time, agree with the conclusion. Do you see any problem with that?

Oh, so we are not finished yet.

I think we might be done Koldo.

I'm not really seeing anything that strikes my interest in these posts. There's nothing in particular that I have said that seems to have been thoroughly contested.

 

[Koldo]

There's nothing in particular that I have said that seems to have been thoroughly contested.

Other than what i contested?

 

[Penumbra]

Other than what i contested?

Let me know what you believe that is, I guess.

 

[Falvlun]

At the end of the day, it's all surmise and conjecture.

But I sure wouldn't say no to being reincarnated as an elf in Middle Earth.

 

[Sir Doom]

At the end of the day, it's all surmise and conjecture.

But I sure wouldn't say no to being reincarnated as an elf in Middle Earth.

Not in Valinor, eh?

 

[Koldo]

Let me know what you believe that is, I guess.

I need not to impart knowledge that you already possess.

 

[Falvlun]

Not in Valinor, eh?

We can go to Valinor when we are ready.

 

[Sir Doom]

We can go to Valinor when we are ready.

And back again like Feanor! Elves have it all...

 

[muichimotsu]

Added poll, btw. Thought it'd spice things up a bit

 

[Sir Doom]

I voted for the first option. Yes, in all possibilities. I'll say why again even though I already did earlier. I cannot imagine, and am terrified to try to imagine my non-existence. If I could guarantee my eternal existence I would.

Another thing is that I am extremely curious about humanity's future. I want to know what we will be like 100, 200, 5000, 1 million, 1 billion years from now. I really would love to be here for all of it. It sucks that I won't see any of those.

 

[Orias]

I voted for the last option. I don't really know why, just that "living" forever seems too cliche, I'd rather be "dead" forever.

If any of you can catch my drift.

 

[Reptillian]

I've decided that if I have to die, this is how I want to go out.

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[Falvlun]

I voted for the last option. I don't really know why, just that "living" forever seems too cliche, I'd rather be "dead" forever.

If any of you can catch my drift.

I don't really catch your drift. It might be a cliche that single ads look for people who enjoy "long walks on a beach", but if you truly enjoy long walks on a beach and want your partner to enjoy that too, then isn't it better to embrace your cliche rather than risk getting something you really don't want?

 

[muichimotsu]

Disappointment is part of life

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Wasn't sure what the difference was between the last two.

I want to live forever, only if the conditions are either blissful (heaven) or if they're not blissful then I'd prefer to not be aware of living forever (kinda like getting total amnesia every 100 years or reincarnation)

I wouldn't want to live forever if the conditions were horrible and I knew that it will never end.

 

[muichimotsu]

Difference between probably yes and probably no, I suppose

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Difference between probably yes and probably no, I suppose

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the "Yes, with some possibilities" mean yes but only under certain circumstances?

And doesn't the "No, with some possibilities" mean not in some circumstances?

The bottom one is just a negative version of the top one, isn't it?

 

[muichimotsu]

Well, it could be that you don't want to live forever, but if it was innate, there are forms that are preferable, such as being able to die in some other way or negate your immortality. They are certainly related and overlap in that they are specific and not general.