Trailblazer
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Then don't discuss them.I do not want to discuss the fantasies that you may have (other kind of world, other kind of body), but you can never leave this world.
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Then don't discuss them.I do not want to discuss the fantasies that you may have (other kind of world, other kind of body), but you can never leave this world.
The way I often feel about God I am not so confident but thanks anyway.I think you are on the way to heaven. I have no doubt.
Actually, as Baha'is that is how we are enjoined to live, focusing on what we can do in this life to make this world a better place for everyone, all the while knowing in the back of our minds that there is a life beyond. I try to do what I can do for others in this life, but I probably focus more than I should on the next world. That is probably because my life in this world has not been a bowl of cherries so I need hope for a better life in the future. The following passage speaks to my heart and my mind, because I fully believe it.It's a bit different than a traditional view. No idea where you were and no idea where your going. Just knowing what this life entails.
And do we have any reason to believe that "the soul" actually exists?The mechanism is called the soul.
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Not unless you believe in a religion or want to know what a religion says about the soul and the afterlife.And do we have any reason to believe that "the soul" actually exists?
I don't, thanks.Not unless you believe in a religion or want to know what a religion says about the soul and the afterlife.
Correct, there is no direct objective evidence for souls, only indirect evidence by way of those who have experienced consciousness outside of the body after being declared clinically dead. I believe that the soul is responsible for that continued consciousness.So I take this to mean that there's no objective evidence for souls. Do I understand you correctly?
What evidence is there of anyone "experienced consciousness outside of the body after being declared clinically dead"?Correct, there is no direct objective evidence for souls, only indirect evidence by way of those who have experienced consciousness outside of the body after being declared clinically dead. I believe that the soul is responsible for that continued consciousness.
What people report regarding what they experienced. For one such example:What evidence is there of anyone "experienced consciousness outside of the body after being declared clinically dead"?
You are free to believe what you want to about this, but try to explain why a brain starved of oxygen has a clear thought process and a clear memory of what happened while in that state, and reports that it was a more vivid experience than anything they had ever experienced in their life. How likely is it that all these similar accounts can be wrong?I mean, I know of people claiming this, but I think it's better explained by the physiological effects of having one's brain starved for oxygen than it would be by assuming that someone really is floating around the room in some invisible but conscience form.
Do you believe you will not "meet" god after death?
Regarding the after life. Me personally, I only accept as true whatever the Prophets of God have stated. All else i consider to be man made imaginations. Why? Because I believe the Prophets of God are pre-existent. That is, They were not born at conception, but in another world before appearing here in human attire and that Their knowledge is infallible and innate. There is no greater spiritual knowledge than what They have given us. That is my personal belief.
I do not believe we will ever "see God" in the afterlife but we will meet Jesus and Baha'u'llah and/or whatever Prophet of God we believed in.Meeting God has nothing to do with stories of people who went to heaven and came back. Jesus said in John 1:18 that nobody has seen God.
The way your lookin at it, it would
I do not believe we will ever "see God" in the afterlife but we will meet Jesus and Baha'u'llah and/or whatever Prophet of God we believed in.
"We will have experience of God's spirit through His Prophets in the next world, but God is too great for us to know without this Intermediary. The Prophets know God, but how is more than our human minds can grasp. We believe we may attainin the next world to seeing the Prophets. There is certainly a future life. Heaven and hell are conditions within our own beings."
(From a letter written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer, November 14, 1947)
Lights of Guidance (second part): A Bahá'í Reference File
So does the Baha'i Faith.The Bible disagree with reincarnation.
That is what I believe as well.And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: (Hebrews 9:27).
So does the Baha'i Faith.
That is what I believe as well.
The nature of the soul is that it is a part of God aka infinity in my book
maybe we can know allThanks for sharing.
That is another view I came across, when studying Hindu Scriptures
I know one thing for sure, and that is that "I do not know for sure how all works in this vast Universe"
Not talkin bout reincarnationThe Bible disagree with reincarnation.
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: (Hebrews 9:27).
There is much more historical evidence for Baha'u'llah than there is for Jesus, by a very wide margin.Why do you believe that Bahulllah is a prophet? What historical evidence is there that supports that?