Where do your ideas concerning Satan, and Lucifer, come from?

[Desert Snake]

I've made various threads concerning Satan, and Lucifer, and who they are, what they do, so forth.
I've noticed, that, it seems the popular or 'taught' ideas, either correlate in a way that isn't inherent, in the Scriptural texts, or , might be inherent, and might not be.

I never heard people mentioning 'satan', or what he did, or people blaming satan, so forth, growing up.

From my perspective, and background, I would say that the ideas concerning satan, are mostly or seem mostly derived from teaching that is outside the direct text. And, also, these teachings tend to inform interpretations, of the text.

Any comments, from, christians, satanists, occultists, so forth, are welcome.

How does the teaching affect beliefs regarding these beings?

Also, does the popular inference to satan in music, match either the teachings, or the text?

Thanks

 

[David T]

I've made various threads concerning Satan, and Lucifer, and who they are, what they do, so forth.
I've noticed, that, it seems the popular or 'taught' ideas, either correlate in a way that isn't inherent, in the Scriptural texts, or , might be inherent, and might not be.

I never heard people mentioning 'satan', or what he did, or people blaming satan, so forth, growing up.

From my perspective, and background, I would say that the ideas concerning satan, are mostly or seem mostly derived from teaching that is outside the direct text. And, also, these teachings tend to inform interpretations, of the text.

Any comments, from, christians, satanists, occultists, so forth, are welcome.

How does the teaching affect beliefs regarding these beings?

Also, does the popular inference to satan in music, match either the teachings, or the text?

Thanks

Watching.The news....

 

[Stanyon]

They are foreign concepts to me, sure I've heard and seen the many names and attributions but they never had any more meaning to me than Zeus or Allah.

 

[74x12]

I've made various threads concerning Satan, and Lucifer, and who they are, what they do, so forth.
I've noticed, that, it seems the popular or 'taught' ideas, either correlate in a way that isn't inherent, in the Scriptural texts, or , might be inherent, and might not be.

I never heard people mentioning 'satan', or what he did, or people blaming satan, so forth, growing up.

From my perspective, and background, I would say that the ideas concerning satan, are mostly or seem mostly derived from teaching that is outside the direct text. And, also, these teachings tend to inform interpretations, of the text.

Any comments, from, christians, satanists, occultists, so forth, are welcome.

How does the teaching affect beliefs regarding these beings?

Also, does the popular inference to satan in music, match either the teachings, or the text?

Thanks

For me it's research and personal experience. Satan is quite real you know. The Bible itself also actually says quite a lot about satan, demons etc. But you have to know where to look.

 

[Enlil]

I've made various threads concerning Satan, and Lucifer, and who they are, what they do, so forth.
I've noticed, that, it seems the popular or 'taught' ideas, either correlate in a way that isn't inherent, in the Scriptural texts, or , might be inherent, and might not be.

I never heard people mentioning 'satan', or what he did, or people blaming satan, so forth, growing up.

From my perspective, and background, I would say that the ideas concerning satan, are mostly or seem mostly derived from teaching that is outside the direct text. And, also, these teachings tend to inform interpretations, of the text.

Any comments, from, christians, satanists, occultists, so forth, are welcome.

How does the teaching affect beliefs regarding these beings?

Also, does the popular inference to satan in music, match either the teachings, or the text?

Thanks

Satan (especially by his name Iblis) figures pretty prominently in the holy texts of my religion.

 

[Dawnofhope]

I've made various threads concerning Satan, and Lucifer, and who they are, what they do, so forth.
I've noticed, that, it seems the popular or 'taught' ideas, either correlate in a way that isn't inherent, in the Scriptural texts, or , might be inherent, and might not be.

I never heard people mentioning 'satan', or what he did, or people blaming satan, so forth, growing up.

From my perspective, and background, I would say that the ideas concerning satan, are mostly or seem mostly derived from teaching that is outside the direct text. And, also, these teachings tend to inform interpretations, of the text.

Any comments, from, christians, satanists, occultists, so forth, are welcome.

How does the teaching affect beliefs regarding these beings?

Also, does the popular inference to satan in music, match either the teachings, or the text?

Thanks

Satan is a term used to reflect our lower nature as opposed to our highest being. In the bible the use of the terms Satan and demons are very different from the Tanakh. The origins of these new ideas most likely relates to the dualistic world view of the Zoroastrians during the period the Hebrew people were part of the Persian empire. Beyond that the influence of the Babylonians, Greeks, and Romans were important.

I don’t believe in the literal existence of Satan or demons though did for a brief period over 30 years ago when I was a born again Christian. On reflection belief in Satan and demons was unhelpful though appreciate it’s an important part of the faith and worldview for many Christians.

 

[David T]

They are foreign concepts to me, sure I've heard and seen the many names and attributions but they never had any more meaning to me than Zeus or Allah.

totally agree .

in regards to the character below some claim it to be jesus and others claim it it to be the devil. Seems very mormon to me because the Mormons claim that Jesus and the devil are brothers.

 

[Desert Snake]

For me it's research and personal experience. Satan is quite real you know. The Bible itself also actually says quite a lot about satan, demons etc. But you have to know where to look.

I have no problem with percieving satan as a 'real being'. I believe the other angels to be real, hence this is another angel, thus no contradiction, in my beliefs.

 

[Stanyon]

totally agree .

in regards to the character below some claim it to be jesus and others claim it it to be the devil. Seems very mormon to me because the Mormons claim that Jesus and the devil are brothers.
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Considering how some of the more radical dems have been acting before and since the election, Trump seems to be the Devil incarnate to them. They seem to have been flinging every bit of faeces they can squeeze out of their angry little bodies in an attempt to use him as a scapegoat that is undeserving of anything but disgust, revulsion, and repudiation..... that may be why I like him.

 

[David T]

Considering how some of the more radical dems have been acting before and since the election, Trump seems to be the Devil incarnate to them. They seem to have been flinging every bit of faeces they can squeeze out of their angry little bodies in an attempt to use him as a scapegoat that is undeserving of anything but disgust, revulsion, and repudiation..... that may be why I like him.

There is a symbiotic relationship in two directions into liberalism and conservativism. They watch tv too much and don't get out enough.

 

[paarsurrey]

I've made various threads concerning Satan, and Lucifer, and who they are, what they do, so forth.
I've noticed, that, it seems the popular or 'taught' ideas, either correlate in a way that isn't inherent, in the Scriptural texts, or , might be inherent, and might not be.

I never heard people mentioning 'satan', or what he did, or people blaming satan, so forth, growing up.

From my perspective, and background, I would say that the ideas concerning satan, are mostly or seem mostly derived from teaching that is outside the direct text. And, also, these teachings tend to inform interpretations, of the text.

Any comments, from, christians, satanists, occultists, so forth, are welcome.

How does the teaching affect beliefs regarding these beings?

Also, does the popular inference to satan in music, match either the teachings, or the text?

Thanks

Satan is mentioned in Quran, my source of religious information, but Lucifer is not mentioned in Quran. The concept of Lucifer as I get it from Christians is not correct. Please
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