royol said:
Is it written in the religious books? or is it just accepted to be wrong?
It's just generally accepted to be wrong. Neither the old nor new testaments
directly state that taking your own life is wrong.
royol said:
The reason I ask is if you truly believe you are going to be with your God when you die, why wait?
Life is a learning experience. Why are you so anxious to stop learning?
Life is also about helping others, making the world a better place for everyone. Will the world be a better place if all the genuinely good people abandon ship and leave the world completely in the hands of selfish people?
royol said:
you have at most 80 or 90 years here but an eternity with your God.
That seems like an excellent reason to
avoid suicide. Heaven can wait.
I only have another 40 or 50 year to spend here meeting wonderful people, learning and teaching. Heaven will still be there when I'm done. I won't run out of time to spend in heaven.
royol said:
God gave you your life to do as you wish with it, you can be a drunk or a priest, you can help or kill people it is your choice, why is it so wrong to take your own life?
"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body," (1 Cor. 6:19-20).
I
can be a drunk or a priest ... but these choices are clearly not equal.
I
can kill people or help people ... but these choices are clearly not equal.
I
can kill myself,
or I can live in such a way that it makes this world a better place. These choices are clearly not equal. I don't need a specific commandment from god to tell me that ending my life is wrong.
And I've already been told that I should take care of my body.
royol said:
If you were a king with all the power and money but were outnumbered 100/1 by the peasants, religion would be a perfect weapon against the peasants,
Have you ever read the
Tao Te Ching? A large portion of it is dedicated to telling rulers the proper and improper way to rule. It contains a lesson to the rulers
on behalf of the peasants.
Historically, religions have hardly been "a perfect weapon" against the peasants. They have frequently been a thorn in the sides of rulers, and rulers have done their best to drive out or destroy religions that defied them.
royol said:
they would not be fighting and revolting against you, the king, they would be going against the teachings of God, so they would stay in their places and leave you alone to enjoy your power and wealth, the perfect solution.
The perfect solution? Popes periodically wielded more authority than kings or even emperors. As a ruler, would you find that convenient?
If you want a convenient solution, go back to the time of the Egyptians (or similar cultures) when the phaoroh
was a god.
royol said:
When organized religion came along it was welcomed with open arms by everyone who had any power at all, and they were quick to point out even they had to bow down to God.
Nice rhetoric. Would you care to back it up with some historical fact?
Jesus came along. He was killed. For three centuries his followers were often butchered. That's a funny way to be "welcomed with open arms by everyone who had any power at all".
royol said:
Only one thing was wrong, they made the after life so wonderful the people were killing themselves to get there,
Again, would you care to back this up with some historical fact?
Most people kill themselves because
this life seems intolerable. That can be the case
regardless of your opinion of the afterlife.