In short be careful, I know Paleontology isn't everyones strong suit, but simple mistakes can be very damaging.
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It's probably thanks to such mistakes that creationists fail to understand evolution.
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In short be careful, I know Paleontology isn't everyones strong suit, but simple mistakes can be very damaging.
wa:do
I think the important lessons are:Well, crap in a handbasket. See, this is why these questions should really only be answered by people whose knowledge extends beyond that which is provided by Google.
I think the important lessons are:
1) If you don't know something, don't be afraid to say so... the worst thing you can do is bull your way through and be found to be talking out your butt... it makes all of us suspect.
2) Don't have a knee-jerk reaction to immediately take the opposite stance of the creationists. In many cases they are not 100% wrong, but have skewed view of things. Often due to misinformation or simple lack of information.
3) If you are looking for information on-line, be very careful with your sources.
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Guys I hate to break it to you... but there were lots of mammals during the age of dinosaurs... in fact we mammals appear at the same time as they do. Some early mammals ate dinosaurs.
Granted these were very primitive groups of mammals, most of which don't survive anymore.
Some mesozoic mammal links:
Category:Mesozoic mammals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Here is a great image showing the amazing diversity that mammals had during the dinosaurs time... they filled many of the niches that they still do today.
In short be careful, I know Paleontology isn't everyones strong suit, but simple mistakes can be very damaging.
wa:do
It may be, that is what the creationist who used the argument intended. It brings up images of dinosaurs and mammoths and man running around together.Thanks as always. My mind leapt right to bunnies and tigers, forgetting entirely the little Jurassic mammals.
Im currently attending a conference and I really need to hear your view.
The guy speaking is a creationist / christian.
Alright, so basically in this conference the person talking exclaims that just because different species have simlitaries (5 fingers for a hand, 4 toes for a foot, etc) it doesnt mean they shared a comment ancestry.
He used an example of a WHEEL.
A unicycle (1 wheel) and a bicycle (2 wheel) are not the same, but they use both the same part, as any intelligent designer would make.
He also exclaims that just because a cat has a tail, and a dog has a tail, it doesnt mean they have a common ancestry.
I want to prove him wrong, or I want someone on the forums to end this argument. Please discuss!
Alright, so basically in this conference the person talking exclaims that just because different species have simlitaries (5 fingers for a hand, 4 toes for a foot, etc) it doesnt mean they shared a comment ancestry.
Also, it seems like he's working from a faulty understanding in another way: it's not like the comet that killed the dinosaurs only killed dinosaurs. It wiped most of the life off the surface of the Earth. All the dinosaurs died out; so did most of the mammals living at the time.I agree with you guys about how bicycle are inanimate objects and how the speaker suggests there is a designer is wrong.
He also said "If the comit killed the dinosaurs, then what about ducks? They should be gone to". Yet the truth is, he's suggesting that ducks were at the same period of time as dinosaurs. He's mixing the concept of creationist and evolution.
A unicycle (1 wheel) and a bicycle (2 wheel) are not the same, but they use both the same part, as any intelligent designer would make.
He also exclaims that just because a cat has a tail, and a dog has a tail, it doesnt mean they have a common ancestry.
Also remember that birds have one key ability that the non-avian dinosaurs didn't... they could fly to someplace else to find food.
But, yes the K/T event wiped out more than just the non-avian dinosaurs.. it took out marine reptiles like the plesiosaurs, pliosaurs and mososaurs. Took out the Pterosaurs and most of the crocodillians and even two major groups of birds. (only one group of birds survived)
Many groups of mammals got wiped out (at least half of the mammal groups died out, leaving us with just three today).
Ammonites and scads of other inverts... loads of fish groups (including whale sized plankton eating bony fish) and several kinds of plants never recovered.
It was a bad day for everyone.
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