whats your beef with brexit?

[Altfish]

This will finally convince the Kanzlerin that she has lost the battle. It's over. We have won


MEPs from the UK prepare to leave the European Parliament

It is a sad indictment of our times when political events are down to "We've won" - we shall see how the UK is doing in 2, 5, 10 years time. Then you may asses who the winners are.
But since by your reckoning 48% and growing of the UK is a loser, hardly a time to rejoice

 

[Altfish]

What motor trade are you referring to?

Any motor trade that we lose will only represent a tiny percentage of the whole, you know.

The motor trade is a combo of production, transport, sales, service, repairs, breakdown, insurance, and more. Give it time and we'll be producing vehicles again.

So Nissan in Sunderland and Toyota in Derby closing would not be significant ?

 

[Estro Felino]

It is a sad indictment of our times when political events are down to "We've won" - we shall see how the UK is doing in 2, 5, 10 years time. Then you may asses who the winners are.
But since by your reckoning 48% and growing of the UK is a loser, hardly a time to rejoice

Again...I think what Remainers do is turning the victim into the perpetrator and vice versa.

We would have never reached this point, hadn't he EU decided to go that far. With its destructive machine towards the European Nation state

 

[Altfish]

Again...I think what Remainers do is turning the victim into the perpetrator and vice versa.

We would have never reached this point, hadn't he EU decided to go that far. With its destructive machine towards the European Nation state

You are so decisive. Once again blaming Remainers.

 

[Estro Felino]

You are so decisive. Once again blaming Remainers.

No...I didn't mean to.
I was blaming the EU. Nobody else.

 

[Altfish]

No...I didn't mean to.
I was blaming the EU. Nobody else.

It didn't read like that ... anyway blaming the EU is just as divisive as you are taking sides.

 

[Estro Felino]

It didn't read like that ... anyway blaming the EU is just as divisive as you are taking sides.

I wish the British the best.
I think of the good of my own country.

 

[oldbadger]

So Nissan in Sunderland and Toyota in Derby closing would not be significant ?

How many players in the whole motor trade?
How many employees in Toyota and Nissan?

Or did you want us to chuck Brexit for those jobs? Is this your pitch?

 

[Altfish]

How many players in the whole motor trade?
How many employees in Toyota and Nissan?

Or did you want us to chuck Brexit for those jobs? Is this your pitch?

No pitch at all. But Brexit was sold as roses and golden unicorns.
You are making your argument on my use of the word 'Trade' it was wrong. I should have used 'Manufacturers'
There'll always be garages selling and mending foreign cars.

 

[Notanumber]

It seems the Europeans have more confidence in a post Brexit Britain than the Remoaners do.

 

[oldbadger]

No pitch at all. But Brexit was sold as roses and golden unicorns.
You are making your argument on my use of the word 'Trade' it was wrong. I should have used 'Manufacturers'
There'll always be garages selling and mending foreign cars.

I am always sad to hear that towns and cities have been plunged in to financial difficulty through closing businesses.

I remember the closing of the mines back in the 80's. Whole districts around here were disrupted, and it has taken 30-40 years for these to recover.

But for you to tell us about Nissan and Toyota closures and to whine that we were promised roses is just political rhetoric imo, and I don't think you'll be looking too hard for any benefits from Brexit, somehow.

However, since you have told us about all these closures, please to tell us how many workers are directly employed in Britain by the manufacturing premises at Toyota and Nissan. Let's see the damage.

 

[oldbadger]

No pitch at all. But Brexit was sold as roses and golden unicorns.

Two minutes on the internet crushes your agenda fueled rhetoric, Altfish.

Google tells me that:- More than 30 manufacturers build over 70 models of vehicle in the UK, employing 186,000 people directly and more than 800,000 across the wider manufacturing industry.

.... so your 250 Nissan and 3800 Toyota jobs are a drop in the auto-ocean, really.

A government that's even thinking of moving trhe House of Lords up North does seem fairly serious about increasaing business up there as well.

You are making your argument on my use of the word 'Trade' it was wrong. I should have used 'Manufacturers'
There'll always be garages selling and mending foreign cars.

Your chosen word, not mine.
At the moment the UK car market is very very seriously reduced with sales reducing by the year, as prospective buyers worry about future legislation to remove IC cars off the road, so I can't be focused upon a couple of factories.

If you want to increase vehicle production ion Britain, then stop the anti-Brexit agenda and start calling out for Insurers to offer fairer premiums to drivers of E-Cars, because at the moment there is a very heavy loading upon them. Now that could help to increase jobs...... See? Positive thinking is for Brexit, not negativity.

 

[Altfish]

It seems the Europeans have more confidence in a post Brexit Britain than the Remoaners do.

1000 out of 50000

 

[Altfish]

I am always sad to hear that towns and cities have been plunged in to financial difficulty through closing businesses.

I remember the closing of the mines back in the 80's. Whole districts around here were disrupted, and it has taken 30-40 years for these to recover.

But for you to tell us about Nissan and Toyota closures and to whine that we were promised roses is just political rhetoric imo, and I don't think you'll be looking too hard for any benefits from Brexit, somehow.

However, since you have told us about all these closures, please to tell us how many workers are directly employed in Britain by the manufacturing premises at Toyota and Nissan. Let's see the damage.

On the contrary, I am looking forward to the promised benefits...

Remind me, what were they?

 

[Notanumber]

1000 out of 50000

The IMF seems to be very upbeat about UK prospects as well.

 

[Altfish]

Two minutes on the internet crushes your agenda fueled rhetoric, Altfish.

Google tells me that:- More than 30 manufacturers build over 70 models of vehicle in the UK, employing 186,000 people directly and more than 800,000 across the wider manufacturing industry.

.... so your 250 Nissan and 3800 Toyota jobs are a drop in the auto-ocean, really.

A government that's even thinking of moving trhe House of Lords up North does seem fairly serious about increasaing business up there as well.



Your chosen word, not mine.
At the moment the UK car market is very very seriously reduced with sales reducing by the year, as prospective buyers worry about future legislation to remove IC cars off the road, so I can't be focused upon a couple of factories.

If you want to increase vehicle production ion Britain, then stop the anti-Brexit agenda and start calling out for Insurers to offer fairer premiums to drivers of E-Cars, because at the moment there is a very heavy loading upon them. Now that could help to increase jobs...... See? Positive thinking is for Brexit, not negativity.

Nissan and Toyota were examples - I never even mentiones Honda that has already gone since the Referendum.

House of Lords moving north - that Johnson speak aka lying.

All you are asking me to do can be done without Brexit.

 

[Altfish]

The IMF seems to be very upbeat about UK prospects as well.

Does it? Link?

 

[Estro Felino]

Does it? Link?

You have your own £
We adopted a German currency in disguise called €.
I would be content if I were you.

 

[Altfish]

You have your own £
We adopted a German currency in disguise called €.
I would be content if I were you.

We had our own pound and were in the EU too

 

[Estro Felino]

Does it? Link?