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Featured What made the Israelites so special as a people...?

Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by sense12, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. URAVIP2ME

    URAVIP2ME Veteran Member

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    Since Pentecost one is Jew by spirit. A 'spiritual Jew' as per Romans 2:28-29
    This means that people of the nations can become a Christian whether Jewish or non-Jewish.
     
  2. rational experiences

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    Males on Earth after the Ice Age, re developed pyramid science.....and claim that by visions of the past that they knew the pyramid had been used before.

    Named those stories as Atlantis, when they removed the crystalline fusion of the God Earth stone, as put back by volcanic Earth release in the plate shift/cataclysmic Earth tilt.

    Science in all forms of owns a spiritual mind first, and original visions would have known information, for I have seen VISIONS from the past pyramid and its destructive attack myself and know that it showed destruction.

    So you would ask science as a male and a researcher if you knew that the pyramid had destroyed all life on Earth by VISION...as the male thinking ability to say I will copy what I research....knew that first pyramid was not copying any pre existing natural body, when the natural body owned the interactive reaction, as a natural body.

    Why would you today believe in humans talking about self in a known history country of self origins, where the pyramids and temples were built just in our countries and then got attacked by that technology?

    For what reason would you be studying what human irradiated minds and psyches believed irrationally about self?

    Now if a male applies a science and a technology, then his own environment is involved in it....because science technology involves radiation states....and it was applied in a desert.

    If you regained a cause and effect attack, then the desert would be increased as the example, for what reason would you want to re create your own life and ground attack?

    As a reasonable mind questioning why male science chose what it did.

    All that you could conclude as a rational human in the future was that those minds and psyches were as we see today, self destructive male thinkers, who own no relative care or concern for self or the environment of a natural life on Earth.

    Jeremiah 2:6


    "They did not say, 'Where is the LORD Who brought us up out of the land of Egypt, Who led us through the wilderness, Through a land of deserts and of pits, Through a land of drought and of deep darkness, Through a land that no one crossed And where no man dwelt?'


    John 6:49


    "Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died.

    If you wanted to re apply that technology as thought in that living conditon, a desert then you would have to also include the environmental conditions in that technology....to give self a desert. For technology as thought by a male conscious self is all inclusive.
     
  3. IndigoChild5559

    IndigoChild5559 Loving God and my neighbor as myself.

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    But we aren't in chapter 2, we are in chapter 7, which speaks of the four animals coming out of the sea, and like I said, each represents a nation. The one which is like unto a son of man coming down out of heaven can be no other nation than Israel. Not some abstract "nation." There was no such concept in the Tanakh.

    It does you no good to quote your Christian scriptures to me. They are simply intellectual curiosities. They have no authority whatsoever.

    Also, the Tanakh came first. We agree it is the word of God. It is the reed by which all other writings are measured. If the Book of Mormon is in conflict, toss it. If the Quran is in conflict with it, toss it. If the "New" Testament is in conflict, toss it. So the very fact that the Christian scriptures teach new ideas that are incompatible with the Tanakh are the reason why I simply can't accept them.
     
  4. 74x12

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    Word to the wise; God is trying/testing the righteous. That is for their benefit to perfect whatever good thing God sees in them. So trouble comes to both the righteous and the wicked but it benefits one and overthrows the other.
     
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  7. URAVIP2ME

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    Yes, I realize it does No good to refer to the Christian Greek Scriptures for you, but merely showing my connection.
    For me the 'coming out of the sea' is in reference to the ' sea of humanity ' -Isaiah 57:20
    Especially the masses of humanity alienated from God.
    Because there are four (4) animals, there are four (4) kings that stand up - Daniel 7:17
    To me the angel identifies those 4 animals as 4 kings or animal-like world powers.
    This, is why I was linking those 4 animals to Daniel's parallel found in Daniel chapter 2.
    So, corresponding to the 4 animals:
    * The lion with the heart of a man - Daniel 7:4
    Like a fierce lion (Babylon ) devoured nations including God's people - Jeremiah 4:5-7; Jeremiah 50:17
    That lion with eagle's wings was forward in aggressive conquests - Lamentations 4:19; Habakkuk 1:6-8
    However, Babylon could No longer behave like a 'king ' among animals like a lion would.
    ( 2 Samuel 17:10; Micah 5:8)
    * Another animal the bear -Daniel 7:5 - compares to the silver part of Daniel chapter 2
    This bear connecting or corresponding to Darius the Mede and Cyrus the Great with ending with Darius III.
    The three (3) ribs or 3 directions in which the conquest was pushed.
    Medo-Persia to seize Babylon, then through Asia Minor to Thrace then to Egypt.
    * The third animal the leopard with 4 wings and 4 heads - Daniel 7:6
    We find the Macedonian or Grecian rulers starting with Alexander.
    Alexander like the speed and agility of a leopard pushed on to India.
    His dominion thus was greater than the bear's.
    After Alex died the leopard animal became 4-headed.
    Alex's 4 generals became Alex's successors.
    * Now, the 4th animal beast - Daniel 7:7 - took over the Hellenistic divisions thus Rome emerged.
    Now, the 10 horns are 10 kings - Daniel 7:19-20; Daniel 7:23-24
    The 10 horns of the 4th animal would stand for all the kingdoms that resulted from the dissolution of Rome.
    Thus, entering that long period of history often called as the Dark Ages.
    Now we see a small horn - Daniel 7:8; Daniel 7:24.
    A small horn emerges as the British empire and from that the Anglo-American - Daniel 7:8; Daniel 7:11; Daniel 7:20.
    Now the final or lasting rulership is just ahead of us as per Daniel 7:13-14; Daniel 2:44
     
  8. whirlingmerc

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    And there is an 'Israel of God' and a 'spiritual Israel' by faith.
    Both are special in different ways

    Salvation is from the Jews for the World. Jesus told the woman at the well in John 4 that 'Salvation is of the Jews'
     
  9. Faithofchristian

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    Yes..but there is one Israel that claims to be the true Israel of God..but they are not the true Israel...
    Notice Jesus Christ saying in
    Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9..

    Revelation 2:9---" I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan"

    Revelation 3:9---"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

    Therefore there are two Israel's that are claiming to be the Israel of God..
    One the true Israel of God and the other is the false Israel that is claiming to be Israel..
    So the question is..Who's the real Israel and who's the false Israel??
    Do you know the difference between the real and the false Israel?
     
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    The church is a 'spiritual Israel' however not being elect for salvation now does not mean God will not open the eyes of physical Israel in part now or in whole later

    I think it's like Joseph's brothers not recognizing Joseph and thinking him dead and irrelevant while the Egyptian gentiles were saved but eventually 'all Israel was saved' in some sense
     
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    As to where do you that the church as being a spirit Israel. There is no such thing written in the Bible of a spiritual Israel..

    You do know what Jesus has to say for those that claim to be Israel...You do know Israel is the Jewish people...

    Revelation 2:9----"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan"

    So if a church claims to be Israel..which Jews.. it is blasphemy for any church to call itself Israel..has Jesus Christ plainly shows in Revelation 2:9..above..

    Here is Jesus Christ emphasizing again in Revelation 3:9----"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee"

    Therefore for any church to call itself Israel and Israel is made up of Jews...
    That is blasphemy..As Jesus Christ plainly shows in Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9
    Above .
    I don't think if I was that church I would want to face Jesus Christ on Judgement day..
     
  12. rational experiences

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    Revelation 2:9----"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan"

    The human review. I am a human, I am natural and own my origin....Human.

    As a spiritual self, I am a human.

    Yet I can think. I think of the power of God O held within the body of stone. And I think consciously by living within the irradiated cold gases that once were hot that came out of the body of God O the stone.

    I think for science....I claim that I can unleash/release the powers held fused inside the body of God O the mass and the stone....and then claim self sanity?

    The review of fusion....crystalline nuclear mass.

    The jewels of God. Jew plus EL the power of God as a science inference.

    The humans in that land area, gained the greatest amount of irradiation fall out from God, for they said God chose to fall onto our heads...in our country, in our HOLY LAND. And our DNA was the worst human life sacrificed.

    How the medical Christ document medical assessment relayed advice about the study and human reason for life sacrificed in nuclear science conditions.

    Exactly how it was explained.

    If you irradiate yourself with radiation that belongs to ground dust/ a nuclear chemical reaction and then later on, by the transmitters that belong to ground fusion conversion.....think as if you are the science reaction. Then you thought you were given life from off the ground....and were mind possessed.

    As the Jesus Christ conclusion as the atmospheric mass said, the Christ body was in transition of being cooled....was not holder of its natural gas mass as a whole/HOLY body...and would regain its cold gas mass stable state inherited by x 12 mass end of year SACRED ICE accumulation/cooling...whilst the Saviour wandering star gases cooled the heated abominated womb of space.

    Just how it was taught....by a medical and science of the occult/cult UFO assessment.

    So when one brother says Jesus never saved us......how could Jesus Christ as an irradiating atmosphere save any of us. The evidence...every sickness we suffer including gaining of colds...plus aging. The radiation effect itself.

    We were promised the holy return of our spirit and cellular held o form in the Year 2012 from spatial cooling, Holy Mother return...by Holy Son theory.....returning by sacred ice....how the story was taught.

    Prophet in every country using the science technology except Rome in that era, gained a cold/asteroid meteor/comet cooling gas replacement as known. Rome gained burning hot comets several times....when they decided to stop nuclear practice on Earth as the wealthier control group in our past.

    Why Nero went and burnt out the science historian records at Alexandria.

    The argument in science, who owned the worst land feed back. Rome did...for other countries gained the stone Saviour cooling of their Prophet.

    Therefore it was likely that Rome was the first Temple user in that technology with the pyramid.
     
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