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What is wrong with calling Islam religion of peace?
- Thread starter sovietchild
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Are you a Modern Orthodox Noahide? Or a Haredi Noahide? Or a Conservative Noahide? Or a Progressive Noahide?
Haredi I suppose haha. if I have questions I go to Tumah. There's also a website Ask Noah Forums - Ask The Academy Rabbis and they only take advice from the Orthodox / Ultra Orthodox AFAIK.Are you a Modern Orthodox Noahide? Or a Haredi Noahide? Or a Conservative Noahide? Or a Progressive Noahide?
I guess being a Haredi Noahide is much easier than being a Haredi Jew.
Haha yeh. But we depend upon each other. Who else is going to work in the hospitals on Shabbos?!
I guess random goyim who break Noahide Laws but can still be doctors?
Basically (afaik).
I suppose plenty of hospitals keep going in the old Israel, when only like 20% are any kind of Orthodox!
Not for long! The Haredim are a fast growing community and iirc Beitar Illit has the highest birthrate in the country.
Too add, this just makes me think of the caption under the picture in this article, which always makes me laugh:
Underneath the radar – the haredi political revolution
Haredim lots of Haredim!
SethZaddik
Active Member
Mus
Thank God for the wisdom of the Supreme Court in blocking the Muslim ban and apparently they do believe Muslims are peaceful, and they have the power.
If some of you guys did... let's just say there is a good reason for why you don't, and a good reason for blocking the ban.
Muslims are peaceful, we already live here and the people who think Muslims want to convert the world or are terrorists, I am sorry, but anyone who thinks either of those things is a dimwit.
True, but there are numerous factors involved. They aren't growing as fast as the Bedouin, I don't think.
Also, sure, the numbers are growing, but there's also a growing trend of sectors of Haredi society integrating into broader society, as these kind of 'Modern Haredim' - getting into the tech business and this kind of thing. Also, as their population grows, pressure on their army enrollment will rise. These factors put together are big boosters for "assimilation".
Plenty of Muslims are peaceful, some are not. To make a blanket statement about 1.6 billion people is dishonest whether positive or negative.
Indeed, this is true.
Politically speaking, it'll be interesting to see how things develop. There are already Haredim who vote Likud and Jewish Home, I wonder if that'll be a growing trend or whether they'll stick to UTJ and Shas. In some ways, the former would be a little more dynamic.
Of course there are substantial differences on the willingness to engage with broader Israeli society between Sephardi and Ashkenazi Haredim, given their differences on Zionism.
Talking about the Haredim with some Islamic debate on the side lol.
"Oh yeah, I've seen that argument before...hang on....okay there....THE HAREDIM VOTED FOR WHO???"
Hahaha, yeah, a little off-topic. Eh, it's all Abrahamic.
I'm afraid I didn't really get that last part
It's an imitation. You've seen all the Islamic arguments before and can respond with one eye closed; meanwhile the 'real topic' (it's not) we're both getting all het up about!Hahaha, yeah, a little off-topic. Eh, it's all Abrahamic.
I'm afraid I didn't really get that last part
You know, there's this great big Islamic elephant in the room and we're worried about who the Haredim are voting for.
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It's an imitation. You've seen all the Islamic arguments before and can respond with one eye closed, meanwhile the 'real topic' (it's not) we're both getting all het up about!
Haha, OK, yeah
We've done one to death. We don't discuss trends in Israeli society often though!
SethZaddik
Active Member
There is no logic in assigning a lone attribute, be it peaceful or violent or whatever, to a whole culture.
Every culture has good and evil, and just like the rest of earth most Muslims desire nothing more than peace, because they don't have it.
They are peaceful, it is never Muslims invading and occupying nations today, they get occupied. They use dialectics to cause rebellion and destabilize Muslim nations, Arab in most cases, because they have oil or the right land to grow opium.
Who are we fooling if we believe that the invading nation is good when the reasons never were true or valid to begin with?
The real reason I became a Muslim was people and their anti Islamic rhetoric and a dissatisfaction with the covert lies of Christian theology and sorry state of the religion, it is the religion of Paul and not Jesus.
So to kill two birds, losing Paul while keeping the same basic beliefs with a few small differences and secondly as icing on the cake a big f u to all people who see a difference between racism and creedism, aka religious intolerance.
Hate is hate and you are sad if you hate or have a negative opinion of 1.5 billion people you have never met, countries you have never visited or any whole culture, unless you know every member personally and have a legit reason and that never happens so...
Last, using ancient literature that is not nearly, not even close to as violent and disturbing as the literature of Judaism and by default Christianity, to validate your hate is just as pathetic.
You watch worse things on television everyday and do not complain, so why don't you start with something relevant to your life and stop digging for ways to make Islam look bad.
The Tanakh makes the Quran look like the Lion King compared to the Tanakh which would be a horror film if ever made a real movie based off.
Passion of the Christ? People flocked to watch Jesus get beaten. Seriously that was a snuff film.