What is the mystery of the kingdom?

[Troublemane]

Part of what thomas is on about is this

Twin Flames, introduction by Antera

..hey what if you have more than one soulmate? what do you do then? :angel2:

 

[blackout]

Perhaps "twin flame" relationships are so rare because this
closed marriage fraud of a construct we live under
keeps people BOUND to the wrong partners for life.
(or at least years and years and years...)

The closest I have come to a "twin flame" relationship in my life
has been with ANOTHER WOMAN. So go figure.

Twins we are.
And the connection is a magic unto itself.

A polyamorous life construct keeps you at least open to connection
with the "soulmate(s)" you may have missed otherwise.

My life is living proof of this fact.

 

[lockyfan]

There is no mystery of the kingdom


Jesus died to save us all from sin and death. From the imperfection Adam passed onto us after he sinned.

Jesus died perfect as a rcorresponding ransom he payed his perfect life so that we could have perfect life, when God brings his kingdom upon the earth. and rids us of Satan and his system of things

 

[jtartar]

Has anyone figured it out?

Heneni,
God's Kingdom is the THEME of the entire Bible. It is called The Golden Thread, because it weaves itself through all the books of the Bible.
The actual Kingdom is Jesus and a small group of people who will be resurrected to heaven to be Kings and Priests over the earth for The One Thousand Year Judgement Day, called the Little Flock at Luke 12:32. This Judgement Day will be ruled over by the Kingdom and will bring the world to the paradise condition God originally made it, and the Kingdom will help resurrected mankind and ones who live through the Great Tribulation, back to perfection as Adam and Eve were before their rebellion, Rev 5:9,10, 7:4, Rev 20:4-6.
The first prophecy written in the Holy Scriptures tell about the final outcome, Gen 3:15. Jesus is the seed who will finally put Satan and his seed to death by throwing them nto the Lake of Fire, Rev 20:10, 14,15.
At the time of Abraham God picked him and his descendents to be His chosen people, Gen 12:1-3. The Israelites went down into Egypt and later were made slaves. God brought them out of Egypt and made them His Chosen People, after they had agreed to be His people and obey Him, Ex 19:5,6, 24:7. They were to be His witnesses to the whole world, Isa 43:10-13.
For a time the nation of Israel was ruled by God Himself, a THEOCRATIC GOVERNMENT. In the year 607BC God allowed the Nation of Israel to be defeated and taken captive to many nations, by Babylon, under their king Nebuchadnezzar.
This happened because the nation continued to fall to false religion and worshipped other Gods. This was the end of Theocraticd rule by God on earth. This concept is told about in Daniel the fourth chapter. The great TREE was actually a picture of the Theocratic Government, that was chopped down. Ezekiel also spoke of the time when God's rule over the earth would end, Eze 21:25-27. Jesus is the one with the legal right, Gen 49:10, the one called Shiloh. The tree would grow again after a period of seven times. In this Longrange prophecy the Kingdom would return to power, with Jesus as the King in 2,520 years. This time period ended in 1914 CE.
When the angels announced Jesus' birth they told about Jesus Kingdom, Luke 1:30-33.
The scriptures tell that when Jesus would become King of the Kingdom, he would not take full control, but would rule for a time in the midst of his enemies, Ps 110:1,2. The scriptures in Rev 6:1,-8 tell about Jesus receiving his crown and then riding forth to conquer, in the midst of his enemies. The same time period is also mentioned at Rev 12:3-5, this is the birth of the Kingdom. Notice here too that the coming of the King Jesus would be a time of wars. At Rev 7-9 we are told about Michael. Michael is a heavenly name of Jesus, Jude 9 shows that there is only one ARCHANGEL. Archangel means chief angel. Notice also that 1Thes 4:16 tells about the Lord, Jesus having THE ARCHANGEL'S voice. Notice that the wicked angels of Satan are thrown down to the earth, Rev 12:9, and then WOE for the earth, Rev 12:12. As can be seen by the riding of the four horses of Rev 6:1-8, there would also be all kinds of unrest and trouble on earth. This trouble is caused by the demons that were thrown down to earth with Satan.
Remember that all these things would show that Jesus is ruling in heaven. If you read Matt chapter 24, much of the unrest is prophesied by Jesus.
The GOOD NEWS of the Kingdom today is : Jesus is ruling in heaven NOW. His rule will extend to the whole earth shortly, at Armageddon. Then we will have a new ruling body in heaven, Jesus and 144,000 corulers, who will help bring this earth back to a paradise earth that has always been God's purpose, Gen 1:26-28, Isa 45:18, 55:11, Ps 37:29, Rev 20:6,7.
Some of the people who will be ruled over by these Kings will live through the Great Tribulation, Rev 7:14, and many more will be resurrected back to earth during the Thousand Year Judgement Day, John 5:28,29, Acts 24:15.
All the ones taken to heaven will be resurrected IMMORTAL, 1Cor 15:51-54, Rev 20:5,6. As is told at John 5:28,29, some of the ones resurrected to earth will be put to death because of being incorrigible, Isa 65:17,20, 25.

 

[Clement_In_Christ]

Peace to you from Peace.

This is a very simple question, for Christ answer it many times.
The kingdom of heaven is everything that the most high God created. But because you are in flesh (darkness) your flesh eyes can't see it..
For it is the eye of the nous (spirit)that can only see the kingdom of heaven. Luke 17:20-21

this spirit is in all of us. Once we are able to give rise to it, only then can you inherit the kingdom of God/Heaven. Some people it comes as a gift. People like Daniel who can interpret dreams. He got his teachings in spirit at night. The spirit is the key to all wisdom of this world because it was here ever since the beginning and this spirit is in every living being.

*edit*

 

[Zadok]

Has anyone figured it out?

Anciently one’s covenant with the Suzerain was by definition called (or defined as) the mystery of the kingdom. In general the term "mystery" applied to those outside the covenant.

Zadok

 

[lockyfan]

Peace to you from Peace.

This is a very simple question, for Christ answer it many times.
The kingdom of heaven is everything that the most high God created. But because you are in flesh (darkness) your flesh eyes can't see it..
For it is the eye of the nous (spirit)that can only see the kingdom of heaven. Luke 17:20-21

this spirit is in all of us. Once we are able to give rise to it, only then can you inherit the kingdom of God/Heaven. Some people it comes as a gift. People like Daniel who can interpret dreams. He got his teachings in spirit at night. The spirit is the key to all wisdom of this world because it was here ever since the beginning and this spirit is in every living being.

*edit*

The Kingdom of Heaven is actually the messianic Kingdom, the one Jesus will rule upon the earth and then will hand back to God after the 1000 years and then Jehovah will rule over all perfect mankind forever.

 

[blackout]

so good to have someone around to tell us what things 'actually' are.

 

[lockyfan]

so good to have someone around to tell us what things 'actually' are.

So what is your idea on hte kingdom?

Also you need someone to be telling you that. Because then you cant turn aroun d to Jehovah at Armageddon and say our werent told, because you were.

 

[smokydot]

Has anyone figured it out?

Where is it referred to in Scripture?

 

[dmgdnooc]

Has anyone figured it out?

The 'mystery' or secret of the Kingdom is that entrance is made available to the Gentiles and not just the Jews.
Entrance is by faith, not by works of Law, so that the 'uncrcumcision' have an opportunity to join the Jews in the Kingdom of God.
　
The secret had been hidden, in plain sight, in the scriptures and only became evident with the vision afforded Peter in Acts ch 10.
Paul, in Colossians (vs 1.26 + 27), says 'the mystery which hath been hid from ages ....
now manifest to his saints, to whom God has made known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you'
　
That the word of faith can dwell inside a Gentile, without the Law, was a supreme test of a 1st century Jew's faith (built, as it was, on observing the Law).
It was every bit as much a stumbling block to the Jews as Law keeping had been, and remains, to the Gentiles.

 

[Nadia Faiazova]

Hi! You mean, to what, though, was Jesus referring when he told us to pray: “Let your kingdom come”? God’s Kingdom is a government established by Jehovah God with a King chosen by God. Who is the King of God’s Kingdom? Jesus Christ. Jesus as King is greater than all human rulers and is called “the King of those who rule as kings and Lord of those who rule as lords.” (1*Timothy 6:15) He has the power to do far more good than any human ruler, even the best among them.
5 From where will God’s Kingdom rule? Well, where is Jesus? You will remember learning that he was put to death on a torture stake, and then he was resurrected. Shortly thereafter, he ascended to heaven. (Acts 2:33) Hence, that is where God’s Kingdom is—in heaven. That is why the Bible calls it a “heavenly kingdom.” (2*Timothy 4:18) Although God’s Kingdom is in heaven, it will rule over the earth.—Revelation 11:15.

 

[outhouse]

if you were to believe in the old nonsense written.

you could go with astrological charts and cycles and find out the past gods had long runs and then changes with the new cycles.

Me i dont believe the old mythology in the bible and I dont tie in to astroligical mythology either.

all my opinion

 

[Thief]

Did any one make the quote...'the kingdom is within you?"

Makes sense to me.

 

[Civil Shephard]

What is the mystery of the Kingdom
Has anyone figured it out?

I think the mystery of the Kingdom may be that it's really a just a Country with a President who has a 100% approval rating.

 

[james2ko]

Did any one make the quote...'the kingdom is within you?" Makes sense to me.

Not so much to me...Jesus addressed this quote to the Pharisees. How could the kingdom be within men He called "hypocrites" and "blind guides", "who were full of extortion and excess," who were like "whitewashed tombs, which appeared beautiful outward, but...within [were] full of dead mens bones, and all uncleanness" (Matt 23:21, 23-27)?

 

[Heneni]

One of the verses that talks about the mystery is this one in Col 1:26

Colossians 1: 26 the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, but is now disclosed to the saints. To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

This verse says that the mystery is 'Christ in you, the hope of glory'.

Does that solve the mystery? Perhaps not yet. We have to ask how Christ gets in you and what kind of glory are we hoping for, and why does he have to be IN you to have this hope.

Colossians 2:2 indicates that Jesus himself is this mystery.

Col 2:2 ....in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ.....

Personally I see no biblical foundation for the sinners prayer as a means to 'get Christ in you'. (But that is another topic)

The kindgom principles have to be at work IN you before you can enter into the kingdom of God with your new glorified body.

So the kingdom is IN us but also OUTSIDE of us.

 

[kylixguru]

But "God dying"... He can't die by definition. Wouldn't He be something other than a God?

How do you explain the Holy Ghost then? When I die all that remains of me is my ghost. A ghost isn't just a spirit but is actually a disembodied spirit. Thus, the Holy Ghost itself is a dead God.

 

[gzusfrk]

And the two shall become one flesh

 

[idea]

(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 2:7)
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:


If you know who "Wisdom" is, you would know one of the mysteries