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What is the Alt-Right?
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Neo Deist
Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right
Just another extremist group using the internet to preach its message of hate.
Okay, that is what it looked like, I just wanted to hear other input.
निताइ dasa
Nitai's servant's servant
Yes, the alt-right believe that it is race itself (whiteness) that is intrinsically valuable and should be preserved and that achievements of Western Culture are due to the race (so White Nationalists). They also believe, I think, that culture arises from race. I think its a pretty illogical philosophy but its quite vague and I actually have not seen a proper definition of it since it exists virtually online. I know that Breitbart wrote a long (yet controversial) article covering it which you can read if you want a further definition.
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The defacto alt-right manifesto if your interested to read their perspective.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/
The defacto alt-right manifesto if your interested to read their perspective.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/
A very interesting article. Thanks Laika.
Some of the claims seems somewhat unsubstantiated (e.g. the alt-right is composed of very intelligent people) but this is only to be expected when one considers the source. It's good to see it from a perspective close to its own, rather than from some progressive echo chamber.
Alt-right supports you know who.
Trump needs to fix this part of his presidency. I'm willing to give him a chance, but this hate thing needs to be cleaned up.
In a way, I do support whites standing up for themselves. I do believe we place an unfair double standard on them. Minorities can celebrate certain things while we assume whites cannot without the assumption of racism. I just don't support any rhetoric of any race being superior than another.
Trump needs to fix this part of his presidency. I'm willing to give him a chance, but this hate thing needs to be cleaned up.
In a way, I do support whites standing up for themselves. I do believe we place an unfair double standard on them. Minorities can celebrate certain things while we assume whites cannot without the assumption of racism. I just don't support any rhetoric of any race being superior than another.
निताइ dasa
Nitai's servant's servant
I assume you are referring to me? There is really no need to be passive aggressive. I am really happy to talk this through. I was never really defending Steve Bannon (I didn't even know him before yesterday), but merely ascertaining whether your accusations of white supremacy towards him were warranted or not. I found them wanting. For your information I completely disagree with the alt-right and its ideologies of white separation.
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Neo Deist
Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
Just because extremist groups say they support Trump (they too have the freedom of speech) does not mean that Trump supports them.
Well, the second part isn't clear. I can quote him easily to paint a picture that is similar to these racists. Not to mention I can add sexism in there with Trump.
He needs to come out and be very clear on his messaging.
I am somewhat baffled by this certainty found among the alt-right and related groups that "Anti-Europeanism" is widely taught in schools. What does that mean? I haven't come across it.
But I think it's a very good point that a lot of the alt-right aren't really in it for ideology, they're in it because they've identified with something and because they enjoy being subversive. This of course means actual argument isn't going to convince many people out of it, because it's about who they feel they are more than what they believe.
This is probably true for many in the far-left and in the progressive camp more broadly as well. I like to think personally that I could be reasoned to a different point of view if it made sense.
But I think it's a very good point that a lot of the alt-right aren't really in it for ideology, they're in it because they've identified with something and because they enjoy being subversive. This of course means actual argument isn't going to convince many people out of it, because it's about who they feel they are more than what they believe.
This is probably true for many in the far-left and in the progressive camp more broadly as well. I like to think personally that I could be reasoned to a different point of view if it made sense.
Anti-europeanism generally means "white guilt". E.g. Teaching people about slavery in the US.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_guilt
निताइ dasa
Nitai's servant's servant
I wouldn't call him a spokesperson (when there is no statement with alt right ideas from Bannon). The only connection between Bannon and the Alt right, I have found is the article that @Laika ji posted. Breitbart is certainly a platform (and the only platform I've read) where the views of the alt right are discussed, but that is not always the same as supporting. In Journalism, you can cover a point of view without agreeing or disagreeing with it. That is what honest journalism is. While I'm not going to argue the article is objective or honest, I don't see how it supports or agrees with alt right ideas. And I find it even harder to believe that magically Bannon now supports these ideas. It simply examines the reasons and the circumstances in which such a racially motivated group such as the alt right could have arisen.