What is it with Radical Muslims and beheadings?

[Cooky]

Maybe Islam will learn in another few hundred years, hopefully sooner

I'd prefer by next year.

 

[Altfish]

So? The OP was specifically about terrorism, then you tried to make it bad things in general whataboutism. You said Americans shouldn't criticize anything due to something unrelated their government does, so unless the UK is without its own faults or flaws, you should keep silent too, right?

But the Islamic groups that carry out such atrocities don't see it as terrorism, they see themselves as freedom fighters and believe they are in the right.
I don't agree, think it is abhorent but I would argue it is more humane than keeping someone in prison for 10-years on death row then murdering them with poisons.

 

[Altfish]

The US engages in religious killings?

if not, it is apples and oranges.

It is the religious right that supports such barbarism, the Democrats would cancel state murder if they knew it wouldn't upset the religious.

 

[Altfish]

Billy Bailey was the last capital offense perpetrator who was executed by hanging in the U.S., this happened over 23 years ago; our American society is now too civilized to snap anybody's neck.

It is still available as a method, it has not been outlawed. Also, is lethal injection really humane??

 

[columbus]

But the Islamic groups that carry out such atrocities don't see it as terrorism, they see themselves as freedom fighters and believe they are in the right.

Rather like the Bush administration and their Christian supporters saw themselves when the bombings of Baghdad started.
Tom

 

[ChristineM]

I'd prefer by next year.

Christianity had about a 600 year head start (and is still not perfect) Hopefully islam will learn from and improve on its older brother.

Next year would be nice

 

[Father Heathen]

But the Islamic groups that carry out such atrocities don't see it as terrorism, they see themselves as freedom fighters and believe they are in the right.
I don't agree, think it is abhorent but I would argue it is more humane than keeping someone in prison for 10-years on death row then murdering them with poisons.

Regardless, saying X can't criticize Y because X's government is guilty of Z is silly nonsense.

 

[Altfish]

Regardless, saying X can't criticize Y because X's government is guilty of Z is silly nonsense.

But then X should also start threads criticising X's government for its barbaric murdering of its citizens.

 

[Salvador]

It is still available as a method, it has not been outlawed. Also, is lethal injection really humane??

If I were going to be executed, but had the choice of how I'd be executed, I'd want to be taken down by firing squad. I'd hope to be humanely offered a cigarette and blindfold.

 

[Altfish]

If I were going to be executed, but had the choice of how I'd be executed, I'd want to be taken down by firing squad. I'd hope to be humanely offered a cigarette and blindfold.

To be honest the guillotine is probably the cleanest - for the victim - a bit messy for the perpetrator

 

[McBell]

A molotov cocktail is not a "bomb".

um...
Actually, it is:

a container filled with explosive, incendiary material, smoke, gas, or other destructive substance, designed to explode on impact or when detonated by a time mechanism, remote-control device, or lit fuse.​

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Okay, violence is a way to control others... And the notion to control en masse hinges on ideology...

...So what ideology is responsible for the many beheadings we see across many Islamic groups and nations?

Actually, I would suggest it isn't so much about a notion to control others, but an impulse towards control separate from ideology. I suspect some ideologies do lead to violence through the need to conform the world around deep-seated beliefs (take beliefs around homosexuality as a sin, for example), but this isn't confined to religious belief, and by no means does this belief always lead to violence.

 

[sun rise]

But to live that out fundamentally, as a society for example, would mean no police force and no military. It would put that society at great risk of takeover by outsiders who think differently.

Neither love nor hate determine whether or not a police force etc are necessary. I can love my child but still not allow any kind of behavior.

 

[Salvador]

To be honest the guillotine is probably the cleanest - for the victim - a bit messy for the perpetrator

.. I consider that form of execution to be totally barbaric.

 

[Shadow Link]

At some point either extreme Islam dies, or humanity...
In the end...

 

[Altfish]

.. I consider that form of execution to be totally barbaric.

But it is quick and not likely to fail.

 

[sun rise]

From my biased POV, lethal injection would be my choice. When our dogs and cats were at the end of their lives, that's what was done. They just quietly faded with no apparent distress of any kind.

 

[sun rise]

At some point either extreme Islam dies, or humanity...
In the end...
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Extremism of all kinds. Now we have the rise of right-wing extreme populism with the rise of hate crimes of all kinds. The latest set of headlines I've seen are multiple anti-Semitic attacks, neo-Nazi attacks and groups that are ready to start a civil war if Trump is no longer President.

 

[Salvador]

But it is quick and not likely to fail.

Fine then, but I'd not want to make a bloody spectacle of the beheaded.

 

[Cooky]

Neither love nor hate determine whether or not a police force etc are necessary. I can love my child but still not allow any kind of behavior.

And in the same way we scold our children, it is right and just to scold Islam today.

...For the good of it's, and our, future.