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Wealth Inequality in America: Viral Video

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
It's to be expected that the bottom 90% would like to see the top 10% transfer wealth to them in the name of fairness.
Their idea of "fair" (according to the chart) leaves most of the the wealthy with very little more than the middle class.
I doubt that we'd ever achieve that kind of redistribution, since it would sap the will to work hard & take risks.
And [insert deity] knows we need to work & take risks.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I think what is sad is that people are beginning to look at the sciences in the way they have looked at the arts for many years, that it's snooty, that it doesn't really do much for the community...
For what it's worth, my daughter's friends in the sciences here at U of M are finding a strong job market with great
pay....& that's with no experience. Most are moving away from SE MI to find jobs, but even here, science is king.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
And [insert deity] knows we need to work & take risks.
That's in the nature of a business start-up. Gawd....hundred hour work weeks & all of my savings at risk. (You haven't lived
until you have to consult with a bankruptcy attorney as part of business planning.) I'm glad I did it, but I wouldn't do that again.
If government ramped down the possible returns, what kind of knucklehead would start a company?

On second thought, I never should'a started a business.
 
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Alceste

Vagabond
Oh, I'll do that too.

We may need someone to fix up our drinks and bring us breakfast in the morning, but you would have to wear an outfit.
sexyButler.jpg
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
That's in the nature of a business start-up. Gawd....hundred hour work weeks & all of my savings at risk. (You haven't lived
until you have to consult with a bankruptcy attorney as part of business planning.) I'm glad I did it, but I wouldn't do that again.
If government ramped down the possible returns, what kind of knucklehead would start a company?

Hundred hour work weeks and savings depleted? I do that now, and I ask, what's really all that new? :p
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Hundred hour work weeks and savings depleted? I do that now, and I ask, what's really all that new? :p
I'm sure you question your own sanity at times.
But ya know, there are people who only work 50 hour weeks & they get a paycheck every 2 weeks.
Yes, it's true!
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
We may need someone to fix up our drinks and bring us breakfast in the morning, but you would have to wear an outfit.

I'll dress up like a rich businessman and munificently allow you to admire my god-like superiority and worship my aura of moral perfection.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
For what it's worth, my daughter's friends in the sciences here at U of M are finding a strong job market with great
pay....& that's with no experience. Most are moving away from SE MI to find jobs, but even here, science is king.

Here, you need to get a job at Boeing outside of professor tenure. Science is king if you can score major military contracts, mostly.

I'm happy for your daughter's friends, though. If that continues, there's hope yet.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
I'm sure you question your own sanity at times.
But ya know, there are people who only work 50 hour weeks & they get a paycheck every 2 weeks.
Yes, it's true!

Announcement: We broke into profit in February - 7 months after opening our doors. I bought myself a salad to celebrate, and it was the best tasting salad I'd had in a long time.

I look forward to the day when I can write myself a paycheck if we continue to hit our numbers. :D
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Announcement: We broke into profit in February - 7 months after opening our doors. I bought myself a salad to celebrate, and it was the best tasting salad I'd had in a long time.
I look forward to the day when I can write myself a paycheck if we continue to hit our numbers. :D
If things get rough, you could just stop paying the dancers.
(They're used to that, I hear.)

Don't hit!
Just kidding!
 

Alceste

Vagabond
I'll dress up like a rich businessman and munificently allow you to admire my god-like superiority and worship my aura of moral perfection.

Then you'll rob us blind with "service charges", steal our house and stash the spoils in the the Caymans to avoid funding the grant programs that support us with your taxes.

I'm onto you!
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Then you'll rob us blind with "service charges", steal our house and stash the spoils in the the Caymans to avoid funding the grant programs that support us with your taxes.

I'm onto you!

But here, I give you FOXNEWS! It will gradually teach you to rabidly stand up for me, and stand against your own interests, through the clever and consistent use of shameless lying and IQ-draining rhetoric.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
Announcement: We broke into profit in February - 7 months after opening our doors. I bought myself a salad to celebrate, and it was the best tasting salad I'd had in a long time.

I look forward to the day when I can write myself a paycheck if we continue to hit our numbers. :D

If you claim that salad as a business expense you might be able to write it off on your taxes....:drool:
 

Alceste

Vagabond
But here, I give you FOXNEWS! It will gradually teach you to rabidly stand up for me, and stand against your own interests, through the clever and consistent use of shameless lying and IQ-draining rhetoric.

Intelligence... dropping... can't fight it.... aaaaargh...

Entitlement mentality! Job creators! Tax is theft! Big government! Abortion is murder! Socialism everywhere! Obama's birth certificate! Bluuuuurgh!

Excuse me, I think I need to go to church now to be told what to do about my newfound political anxieties.
 

Reptillian

Hamburgler Extraordinaire
Wait...I thought the direction of conversation was predicated on non-constitutional actions (deporting rich folk).

Certainly not. There's some sound philosophical reasoning and historical precedence (these ideas work) behind our constitution. :)

Not really. The permanently poor lack drive & skills to bootstrap themselves into productive membership in a highly technological society.
They would be survived by the non-poor, ie, useful citizens. But of course, there would be a continuous influx of useless people, so the
deportation would be an ongoing program.

I agree that lifting themselves up by their own bootstraps would require an imaginary tensile strength and is impossible by Newtonian standards. Who's to say that the poor are "useless" perhaps we just need to restructure our society a bit. I mean, if convicts can make license plates and pick up roadside trash; then surely the very poor have latent skills which can be utilized. Free (*gasp* socialized) higher education is one way in which our society could improve. In the modern "Information Age" I have a hard time believing that this couldn't be accomplished easily for a very small price. Hell, if we can waste trillions killing brown people in Iraqighanistan, then we can spend a couple billion to give the poor a free education and a chance at upward mobility.

Feudal? Hah! No, we must abandon socialism which encourages sloth & reliance on government largess.

Capitalism is very feudal! What are CEO's, supervisors, and bosses but the modern equivalent of land owners, knights, and noblemen? Although I admit that humans, (since they're great apes) naturally seem to prefer a kind of hierarchical social structure with prominent social members and authority figures.

Do the bees and ants complain about the evils of socialism? Do the cells composing your entity complain that communism is crushing them? They're part of something greater than themselves and by cooperating they accomplish more than any individual could ever hope to. I'm not advocating that we become complete socialists or communists, just that we find avenues in which these world views improve our quality of life. Capitalism is to feudalism as communism is to democracy...the problem I think is that most communist societies lack a system of economic checks and balances, and thus result in dictatorships and tyranny.

(I think biology and statistical mechanics could have some interesting things to say about economic theory...I'm a physicist by training, but an interdisciplinary scientist at heart)

There is merit in that. But we see many governmental barriers to poor folk entering the business world, eg, regulatory barriers to entry,
incomprehensible regulation, subsidies which punish them for boosting their income. Tis as though bureaucrats & politicians want people
to be either an employee or on the dole. The poor need more opportunity & less punishment by government.

That's another problem with innate human thinking. We lump things into categories, then relate those categories. Our government needs to embrace shades of gray. Perhaps we need to stop thinking so globally and start thinking locally.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
You run with a strange crowd. Of all the multi-millionaires I personally know, all got there by smarts, hard work & risk taking.

:shrugg:

I guess we can conclude then that...

But in all seriousness, this will not be reconciled. You're a socialist (since you post in the Socialist DIR).
And I'm a capitalist. We have very different goals for society.

BTW, I don't actually advocate running rich people out of the country.
 
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