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Victims of Communism

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Let me have a crack at it, I got some new ideas... ;)
There are no new ideas.
The trick is to consider all the old ones,
& use them to design an optimal system.

Some features I envision....
Capitalism.
Useful regulation for environment, safety, transparency, & justice.
Preventing monopolies.
Effective social safety net.
More peaceful foreign policy.
 

Little Dragon

Well-Known Member
There are no new ideas.
The trick is to consider all the old ones,
& use them to design an optimal system.

Some features I envision....
Capitalism.
Useful regulation for environment, safety, transparency, & justice.
Preventing monopolies.
Effective social safety net.
More peaceful foreign policy.
I would agree with you. Unfortunately, powerful lobbying forces and insidious media outlets, do all they can, to remove all those safeguards you mention, relentlessly. They wont stop. They will always seek to undermine democracy and prey on the weakest.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I would agree with you. Unfortunately, powerful lobbying forces and insidious media outlets, do all they can, to remove all those safeguards you mention, relentlessly. They wont stop. They will always seek to undermine democracy and prey on the weakest.
Everything we enjoy in life is always under this or that threat.
Eternal vigilance is & will always be useful.
Do what is right.
Hope for the best.
Prepare for the worst.
And enjoy what you can.
 

Little Dragon

Well-Known Member
Everything we enjoy in life is always under this or that threat.
Eternal vigilance is & will always be useful.
Do what is right.
Hope for the best.
Prepare for the worst.
And enjoy what you can.
I know. However when I walk past a Tesco (or whatever) superstore, and there are 18 year old kids, outside, begging me and others for loose change, for crack or booze or heroin. The anger intensifies. This should not be.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I know. However when I walk past a Tesco (or whatever) superstore, and there are 18 year old kids, outside, begging me and others for loose change, for crack or booze or heroin. The anger intensifies. This should not be.
Have you tried excoriating or yelling at them to stop?
I favor social services to reduce drug abuse.
It's cost effective.
 

Little Dragon

Well-Known Member
Have you tried excoriating or yelling at them to stop?
What else have they got? Apart from trauma, to hide from, to smother.
I've worked with many people with substance abuse issues, seeing it in the young, horrifies me most of all. The older ones, well, they know the score. The kids however, they know not what they do.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
What else have they got? Apart from trauma, to hide from, to smother.
I've worked with many people with substance abuse issues, seeing in the young, horrifies me most of all. The older ones, well, they know the score. The kids however, they know not what they do.
Many of them can't pull them up by their own
bootstraps to take one of the many unfilled jobs
without some assistance to get their life on track.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
As do I. However long term poverty (leading to inequality and lack of of opportunity etc) is at the root of it all.
Really?
The jobs are there, yet they choose drugs & unemployment.
The UBI can help people who aren't productive enuf to
earn a sufficient wage & benefits to be independent.
 

Little Dragon

Well-Known Member
Many of them can't pull them up by their own
bootstraps to take one of the many unfilled jobs
without some assistance to get their life on track.
Of course, with many, it will take more than a low paid job, to set them straight. There needs work done, from the bottom up.
 

Little Dragon

Well-Known Member
The jobs are there, yet they choose drugs & unemployment.
In these times, where the media and advertising is telling the young, that they can all be superstars, and that low paid jobs are for losers. That everyone should be aiming for the stars. When the jobs aren't that great nor is there much room for advancement. When drugs are awash the streets. When they're too young and too naive to really understand what their choices will mean in later life. When there is no proper guidance, just broken families, absent dads, and parents with problems themselves, unaddressed and un rectified, because the system had also let their generation down too. I could go on about this all day.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In these times, where the media and advertising is telling the young, that they can all be superstars, and that low paid jobs are for losers. That everyone should be aiming for the stars. When the jobs aren't that great nor is there much room for advancement. When drugs are awash the streets. When they're too young and too naive to really understand what their choices will mean in later life. When there is no proper guidance, just broken families, absent dads, and parents with problems themselves, unaddressed and un rectified, because the system had also let their generation down to. I could go on about this all day.
OK.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
If life is so great there, I wonder why....
- People risk their lives to escape by tiny boats in a big ocean.
- Putin is finding many ready to kill Ukrainians for meager pay.

I already have enuf literasy littiracy book learn'n.
No need to move to Cuba.

It's because they're poor. Poverty can sometimes lead to desperation. It's also why so many from capitalist countries are pouring over the US border right now, even as we try to stop them.

How do you think it got so lopsided like this, where a few countries enjoy great wealth and a high standard of living, while the majority of countries don't do quite so well?
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
That's an emergent property of socialism (ie, no capitalism).

But capitalist countries can also be poor.

And you ducked my question: How do you think it got so lopsided like this, where a few countries enjoy great wealth and a high standard of living, while the majority of countries don't do quite so well?
 

Little Dragon

Well-Known Member
Poverty can sometimes lead to desperation.
If you don't even think about the future, because you have today to worry about. Then your priorities will be very different to those of Mr Smith the dentist with his salary and his pension plan and his insurance policies...and his little nest egg sitting in a trust fund or overseas...(if he had any sense).

It's a fact that poor uneducated traumatized people, are not the best decision makers.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Of course I'm impolite.
I am officially RF's biggest jerk.
@Shadow Wolf is my apprentice.
(She prefers "padawan".)
I'm not a jerk. Imma *****.
But you kind of remind of a client I had, in that he said he's bad and ornery and some mean tough dude but he'd barely harm a fly.
Amd no, no, no I don't do that padawan thing solely because of the rat tail haircut you have to have. And it's for those dull, boring, humanness denying Jedi goody two shoes.
And ya just aint the biggest jerk here. Worst smelling as long the dogs and bear aren't wet, but there are those more deserving to be called the most revoltinest.
 
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