They Are Back and Other Tidbits.

[esmith]

Seem that the anarchist are back in Portland and the mayor wants 2 million dollars to hire more police. Thought they cut the police bureau last year.
Pearl District protests turn ‘destructive,’ 2 arrested | KOIN.com
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/arti...-seeks-2-million-to-stem-rampant-gun-violence

And then we have this
Minneapolis 'autonomous zone' jeopardizes residents amid Derek Chauvin trial, police association says
https://www.startribune.com/minneap...yd-square-but-remain-mum-on-detail/600033028/

Hold onto your hats citizens of Minneapolis when the verdict comes back from the Derek Chauvin trial
Growing tension in Minneapolis as trial looms in Floyd death

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh, boy.
Here we go again.

 

[Audie]

Oh, boy.
Here we go again.

Imagine where ya already wouldda went if
Trump had won

 

[Revoltingest]

Imagine where ya already wouldda went if
Trump had won

I keep hearing on RF how the left is better
educated & more tolerant, & less violent.
But when they get angry.....

 

[epronovost]

Seem that the anarchist are back in Portland and the mayor wants 2 million dollars to hire more police. Thought they cut the police bureau last year.
Pearl District protests turn ‘destructive,’ 2 arrested | KOIN.com
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/arti...-seeks-2-million-to-stem-rampant-gun-violence

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/arti...-seeks-2-million-to-stem-rampant-gun-violence

In the interest of fairness, the mayor has asked for 2 millions one-time fundin surplus to the police, other agencies and community outreach organism to stem gun violence in Portland (which remains a one of the least violent major city of the US). So the approach to the problem isn't purely a repressive one through the use of the police as one might imply by your comment.

In my opinion, what is needed to stem problems of gun violence is significantly ramping up gun control at the federal level since local legislation are ineffective. Plus, it would kinda help your neighbours with their problems of gun violence. Canadian gangsters arm themselves largelly in the US through a mix of legal and illegal way. Even Mexican and Central American criminals often end up being armed by US weapons since they are so abundant.

 

[ChristineM]

I keep hearing on RF how the left is better
educated & more tolerant, & less violent.
But when they get angry.....

Left anger is a better class of anger

 

[Revoltingest]

Left anger is a better class of anger

Well, they do loot the finest stores.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I keep hearing on RF how the left is better
educated & more tolerant, & less violent.
But when they get angry.....

The extremists on both sides are a problem. And one of the main reasons that there was no Blue Wave when it came to Congress is due to people realizing that there were too many crazies on the far left.

 

[Revoltingest]

The extremists on both sides are a problem. And one of the main reasons that there was no Blue Wave when it came to Congress is due to people realizing that there were too many crazies on the far left.

You're so balanced.
That is not allowed on RF !!!

 

[epronovost]

Well, they do loot the finest stores.

Better to loot the rich who have more than they can spend (and who'se good are often insurred against theft) than the poors who already struggle like how the rich do.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You're so balanced.
That is not allowed on RF !!!

Sorry, way too early in the day to start imbibing. A proper amount of alcohol will unbalance anyone, and in more ways than one.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Better to loot the rich who have more than they can spend (and who'se good are often insurred against theft) than the poors who already struggle like how the rich do.

Insurance companies simply shift the financial burden. And it is the average person that ends up paying.

 

[Revoltingest]

Better to loot the rich who have more than they can spend (and who'se good are often insurred against theft) than the poors who already struggle like how the rich do.

Well, they also loot stores owned by ordinary non-wealthy folk.
But they're angry....if you didn't want your business looted &
burned, you shouldn't have put it in their way.

 

[epronovost]

Well, they also loot stores owned by ordinary non-wealthy folk.
But they're angry....if you didn't want your business looted &
burned, you shouldn't have put it in their way.

There aren't that many mom and pop shop these days and from the news I got, during the last wave of protest it was mostly big chain stores like Macy's, Targets, some dollar stores and some McDonalds (and two or three police station) that were destroyed.

 

[epronovost]

Insurance companies simply shift the financial burden. And it is the average person that ends up paying.

Of course the rich are far better thieves. When they can robbed and rob back the poor to make it up for it. There is a reason the rich are rich. They are the best thieves there is. They even make their favored form of theft a largely legal or one where it's very hard to get caught and condamned for.

 

[Revoltingest]

There aren't that many mom and pop shop these days and from the news I got, during the last wave of protest it was mostly big chain stores like Macy's, Targets, some dollar stores and some McDonalds (and two or three police station) that were destroyed.

Small stores & beauty salons were looted too.
But burning & looting big stores still harms us all.
And in the inner cities, it causes them to leave,
which creates shopping deserts.

 

[Revoltingest]

Of course the rich are far better thieves. When they can robbed and rob back the poor to make it up for it. There is a reason the rich are rich. They are the best thieves there is. They even make their favored form of theft a largely legal or one where it's very hard to get caught and condamned for.

It's that kind of class warfare thinking (which ignores the individual
in favor of demonizing all in a group) that leads to so much violence.

 

[Audie]

In the interest of fairness, the mayor has asked for 2 millions one-time fundin surplus to the police, other agencies and community outreach organism to stem gun violence in Portland (which remains a one of the least violent major city of the US). So the approach to the problem isn't purely a repressive one through the use of the police as one might imply by your comment.

In my opinion, what is needed to stem problems of gun violence is significantly ramping up gun control at the federal level since local legislation are ineffective. Plus, it would kinda help your neighbours with their problems of gun violence. Canadian gangsters arm themselves largelly in the US through a mix of legal and illegal way. Even Mexican and Central American criminals often end up being armed by US weapons since they are so abundant.

This is not a gun violence issue.

 

[epronovost]

This is not a gun violence issue.

Yeah. The OP specifically mention that the money is to be used to stem un violence in Portland. It's not to be used on any other form of criminality.

 

[epronovost]

It's that kind of class warfare thinking (which ignores the individual
in favor of demonizing all in a group) that leads to so much violence.

Tell that to those who suffer under an oppressive system. There will always be poor, miserable people who are overworked and overstressed under our type of economical system and they are counted by the hundreds of thousands. Small time criminality is nothing compared to systemic violence. No society ever saw any significant improvement of its living condition through the reduction of criminality by the use of police force and judicial ruling. Society improved through mass action to transform economical and political systems. That's how capitalism was born, that's how democracy was born, that's how socialism and the wellfare State was born.