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The Woke Thread

Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
This thread is a catch all for any comments that RF posters
have for this whole "woke" business.

In the news....
What Woke's Worth and Why - Washington Free Beacon
Excerpted...
In early 2019, Ta-Nehisi Coates delivered the inaugural "Distinguished Diversity Lecture" at the Ohio State University. Coates’s hourlong engagement, which included a reading, a moderated conversation, and an audience Q&A, cost OSU $41,500.

The price tag included first-class airfare, a per diem, and private transportation, a contract obtained by the Washington Free Beacon shows. OSU also sold Coates’s books, put him up at a four-star hotel that, per his contract, included "an indoor pool whenever possible" and provided a green room with two bottles of water and one box of Nature Valley "Crunchy Oats and Dark Chocolate" granola. The contract prohibits any fruit with pits.

Coates is a MacArthur "genius" and bestselling author, but even accomplished writers typically don’t rake in speaking fees nearly equivalent to the median household income of the city they are visiting. That sort of payment, however, is the industry standard for the rock stars of the new "wokeness," a survey of nearly 20 contracts obtained through public records requests shows.

In early 2019, Ta-Nehisi Coates delivered the inaugural "Distinguished Diversity Lecture" at the Ohio State University. Coates’s hourlong engagement, which included a reading, a moderated conversation, and an audience Q&A, cost OSU $41,500.

The price tag included first-class airfare, a per diem, and private transportation, a contract obtained by the Washington Free Beacon shows. OSU also sold Coates’s books, put him up at a four-star hotel that, per his contract, included "an indoor pool whenever possible" and provided a green room with two bottles of water and one box of Nature Valley "Crunchy Oats and Dark Chocolate" granola. The contract prohibits any fruit with pits.

Coates is a MacArthur "genius" and bestselling author, but even accomplished writers typically don’t rake in speaking fees nearly equivalent to the median household income of the city they are visiting. That sort of payment, however, is the industry standard for the rock stars of the new "wokeness," a survey of nearly 20 contracts obtained through public records requests shows.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I had a dream that I ate a huge marshmallow, and when I finally woke I found my pillow was missing.
 
Stevicus

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Revoltingest said:
This thread is a catch all for any comments that RF posters
have for this whole "woke" business.
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A key point made in the article was that, for the most part, these programs don't even really work.

The past half-decade of protests "calling out" campus racism and "canceling" dissenting speakers cast doubt on these explanations, as increasing wokeness correlates with increasing racial strife. So does research evidence that diversity training programs do not promote racial understanding, and may even reinforce biases. If hours and hours of training can’t reduce intolerance, it’s hard to see how an hourlong book talk could work real change.
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One of the links was to this article: Why Diversity Programs Fail (hbr.org)

After Wall Street firms repeatedly had to shell out millions to settle discrimination lawsuits, businesses started to get serious about their efforts to increase diversity. But unfortunately, they don’t seem to be getting results: Women and minorities have not gained much ground in management over the past 20 years.

The problem is, organizations are trying to reduce bias with the same kinds of programs they’ve been using since the 1960s. And the usual tools—diversity training, hiring tests, performance ratings, grievance systems—tend to make things worse, not better. The authors’ analysis of data from 829 firms over three decades shows that these tools actually decrease the proportion of women and minorities in management. They’re designed to preempt lawsuits by policing managers’ decisions and actions. But as lab studies show, this kind of force-feeding can activate bias and encourage rebellion.

However, in their analysis the authors uncovered numerous diversity tactics that do move the needle, such as recruiting initiatives, mentoring programs, and diversity task forces. They engage managers in solving the problem, increase contact with women and minority workers, and promote social accountability. In this article, the authors dig into the data, executive interviews, and several examples to shed light on what doesn’t work and what does.
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It shouldn’t be surprising that most diversity programs aren’t increasing diversity. Despite a few new bells and whistles, courtesy of big data, companies are basically doubling down on the same approaches they’ve used since the 1960s—which often make things worse, not better. Firms have long relied on diversity training to reduce bias on the job, hiring tests and performance ratings to limit it in recruitment and promotions, and grievance systems to give employees a way to challenge managers. Those tools are designed to preempt lawsuits by policing managers’ thoughts and actions. Yet laboratory studies show that this kind of force-feeding can activate bias rather than stamp it out. As social scientists have found, people often rebel against rules to assert their autonomy. Try to coerce me to do X, Y, or Z, and I’ll do the opposite just to prove that I’m my own person.

In analyzing three decades’ worth of data from more than 800 U.S. firms and interviewing hundreds of line managers and executives at length, we’ve seen that companies get better results when they ease up on the control tactics. It’s more effective to engage managers in solving the problem, increase their on-the-job contact with female and minority workers, and promote social accountability—the desire to look fair-minded. That’s why interventions such as targeted college recruitment, mentoring programs, self-managed teams, and task forces have boosted diversity in businesses. Some of the most effective solutions aren’t even designed with diversity in mind.

Here, we dig into the data, the interviews, and company examples to shed light on what doesn’t work and what does.

Why You Can’t Just Outlaw Bias
Executives favor a classic command-and-control approach to diversity because it boils expected behaviors down to dos and don’ts that are easy to understand and defend. Yet this approach also flies in the face of nearly everything we know about how to motivate people to make changes. Decades of social science research point to a simple truth: You won’t get managers on board by blaming and shaming them with rules and reeducation. Let’s look at how the most common top-down efforts typically go wrong.
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They're finally figuring out something that I've known since the late 1980s.
 
ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Revoltingest said:
Neither am I.

I wonder if the word is losing meaning, now that
dang nearly everyone is "woke" these days?
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The word is just a "title" for what many people are naturally. If you need to give your understanding of others a title then perhaps thats part of the problem
 
Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
Revoltingest said:
Neither am I.

I wonder if the word is losing meaning, now that
dang nearly everyone is "woke" these days?
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If I have to give the 'right' something, they are good at misusing phrases and turning them into a term of abuse ...

Socialism, Woke, Liberal, BLM, etc. have all become rallying calls for the right wing
 
Stevicus

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Revoltingest said:
Let's test it...
Who here admits being not "woke"?
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Colt

Colt

Well-Known Member
Revoltingest said:
Neither am I.

I wonder if the word is losing meaning, now that
dang nearly everyone is "woke" these days?
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"Woke" is just a rebranding of the term "politically correct." They choose positive labels which by default imply that the opposite of a certain way of thinking is negative, wrong, uncool etc.

Where I live when a housing project gets a bad reputation for crime and violence, they just change the name to something like "Friendship Court Apartments" or some such bs label.
 
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