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The Trump Administration to Deny Bahamians TPS

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Jayhawker Soule, Sep 11, 2019.

  1. Duke_Leto

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    @Valjean, I think you might have a difficult time convincing your opponents that the people you mention were in fact members of "the right". From my experience, those sorts of people tend to think everyone they don't like is a leftist.
     
  2. Valjean

    Valjean Veteran Member
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    When I speak of right and left, I'm speaking of the original division; of the seating arrangement of the French National Assembly of 1789.
    Modern political groups throw the terms around pretty indiscriminately, but in a serious political discussion we need to pay heed to received definitions.

    Just be glad I haven't yet dragged in the Montagnards. ;)
     
  3. fantome profane

    fantome profane Have you read the Whistleblower complaint?
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    That is all ya got for me? Something Tulsi Gabbard said in 2019?

    If the “socialist left” has been going on and on about open border then it should be easy to quote one of these socialist. But all you got is someone saying they are.

    Reality check, before Trump you had eight years of the deporter and chief, and for all his effort Trump will never match Obama’s record in deportations.

    Your immigration system is messed up, no doubt about that. And it has been messed up for a long time. But it is not the socialists who are at fault, it is the capitalists. You have been employing illegal immigrants in huge numbers for probably the last hundred years. Your economy has become dependent on this cheap, and illegal labour. This is the fault of both parties, but hardly the “socialists”.

    Trump himself has a history of employing illegals, and he is most likely still employing illegal immigrants. It ain’t Bernie doing this, it Ain’t AOC. It is the capitalist, it is Trump.
     
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  4. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    It is Bernie doing this...

    Sanders hires DACA protected undocumented immigrant as deputy press secretary


    It is AOC doing this.......

    Source: IG Report Says AOC Hired Illegal Immigrants


    Oh , and dont forget that guy and DACA. Just ask Bernie Sanders.

    Indeed it is the Democrat Socialists that are doing it.

    Want more?
     
  5. fantome profane

    fantome profane Have you read the Whistleblower complaint?
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    Oh yes, I want a lot more. On the one side you have every farm (capitalists) that hires illegal immigrants, every restaurant, hotel or golf course (all capitalists), every factory or processing plant (capitalists), Yes you need to do more, a lot more. Give me about 10 thousand more examples, and you will still have barely made a dent.
     
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  6. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    Won't need to. I have a distinct feeling the Socialist Democrats are more like a supplier of illegals, and then hypocritically turn face , and accuse businesses who hire illegals.

    All the open border policies? It's getting pretty clear isn't it now?

    A match made in hell I guess. Or heaven depending on what side you're on.

    One Supplies them, the other uses them.

    Note to put the couple of puzzle pieces on the table and then figure out which one hires the most illegals....

    The most popular companies in America, ranked by partisan leaning

    I could probably go well past 10,000 on this baby. Match the political affiliation of each company's and just count the illegals from each of them. ;Op

    Not to mention there's been some notable Democrats that want illegals to mow their beautiful lawns at the proverbial Plantation*. You know , a 'perk' from services rendered.

    Democratic lawmaker: Illegal immigrants needed to mow 'our beautiful lawns'


    *Maybe in some cases , come to think of it, there could be very well a couple of socialist Democrat Plantations strewn here and there across the landscape with very beautiful lawns.
     
  7. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    So... Trump's decision in 2017 to implement his concentration camp plan and his decisions since then to greatly expand and worsen the program were all in retribution for something that Tulsi Gabbard said this week? o_O

    I've met right wingers who think Trump walks on water, but you're the first I've met who thinks that he can travel in time.
     
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  8. SkepticThinker

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    Boy oh boy, you do tend toward extreme exaggeration.


    What open border policies????????
     
  9. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    Oh I'm sure something started the ball a while back, I don't know, maybe Obama and DACA perhaps? Socialist Tulsi just puts the cherry on the cake that's all.
     
  10. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    There is none now. Trump's in charge.

    Thank God for small miracles and by the grace of God go I.

    I'm sure when the Socialist Democrats get their grubby hands on some power again, you're going to find out very quickly on just how fast that border is going to open up.
     
  11. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    DACA? You have to be joking.

    You think that leniency for people who were brought to the US as infants and don't have a criminal record justifies the cruelty inflicted by Trump since he came into office?

    I hope I'm misunderstanding you, because if that's actually what you're trying to say... that's evil.
     
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  12. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    What's cruel is egging illegals to come on in with their kids. Not to mention there's quite a cottage industry called rent a kid as well.

    'Rent a Child' Programs in Central American Countries Make It Easier for Illegals To Remain in U.S.

    I suppose with the Socialist Democrats , child exploitation is firmly in the non evil category.

    Trump tries to put a stop to the literal Invasion on our borders , separate the children from so-called 'parents', and the Socialist Democrats call Trump evil.

    Absolutely bonkers. Loco Moco.
     
  13. SkepticThinker

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    Yeah, I know there isn't one. Baseless speculation about some future time doesn't count as one either.

    I'm asking which "socialist democrats" are advocating any kind of "open border" policy? You know, like you claimed but haven't backed up yet. I see another poster has also asked you to back it up.
     
  14. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    Do Democrats really believe in open borders? It's starting to look that way

    2020 Democrats all have the same immigration position: Open borders

    Answer? Pretty much all of them.
     
  15. SkepticThinker

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    Wow, your view of reality is .... bizarre. I mean seriously, "literal invasion?" Gimme a break.

    Child exploitation is Trump's thing. As evidenced by his border policies, that are happening right now. Democrats don't seem too thrilled about his policies, now do they? So where do you come up with this idea that they believe child exploitation is "firmly in the non evil category?" That sounds a lot more like Trump's point of view, than anyone else's.
    And surely you have noticed how badly the problem at the border has been exacerbated by Trump's policies.
     
  16. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    No, what's cruel is separating kids from their parents for no reason except to make the kids and their parents suffer.

    I remeber discussions of the philosophy of morality where "hurting babies for fun" was thrown around as something that was obviously wrong. How times change.
     
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  17. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    Back to denial I see. TDS is a persistent bugger.
     
  18. SkepticThinker

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  19. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    I'd say a fair share of them are rent a kids with fake parents .

    I would say hurting babies comes from encouraging them to come in the first place.

    If it was me, I would annex those countries in South America, and bring America to them instead. All problems solved.
     
  20. SkepticThinker

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    The one in denial is you, my friend.

    Hence the fact that you didn't respond to a single word I said in that post. ;)
     
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