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The Trinity Explained

Super Universe

Defender of God
God created Himself, then He created the Eternal Son (Not Jesus), then God and the Eternal Son created Mother Spirit.


There are three levels in heaven. The innermost level is where God is and where ascended beings live who have been chosen by God. The second level is the Eternal Son's level where He lives and where ascended beings live who have been chosen by Him. The third level is the Mother Spirit level where she lives and where ascended beings who have been chosen by her live.

Outside of heaven, in the material universe, there are seven super universes. One for God, one for the Eternal Son, one for Mother Spirit, one for both God and the Eternal Son, one for both God and the Mother Spirit, one for both the Eternal Son and Mother Spirit, then one for God, the Eternal Son, and Mother Spirit all together. Our universe is all three of the Trinity. Each super universe has differences in life forms that I cannot explain.

The purpose of all of this is so that the Trinity beings, most importantly God, can experience love.

The way beings are saved is when the Thought Adjuster fuses with a beings soul. The Thought Adjuster is a fragment of God. It is usually new and infantile in experience although sometimes beings (Like Jesus) get evolved Thought Adjusters when they bestow as beings on a primitive world.

The Thought Adjuster creates choice because primitive minds have trouble thinking new ideas. The Thought Adjuster is the tiny angel on one shoulder and the tiny devil on the other. It wants to see what your mind will choose. Will you do the right thing or will you do the selfish thing? If you grow up and continually make selfish choices the Thought Adjuster will become quiet and it will not fuse with your soul and you will never go to heaven.

If you exist in a super universe that is the Eternal Son's super universe then you can only be Sonfused and you will ascend to the Eternal Son's area of heaven. If you are in Gods super universe you can only be Godfused. The same for the Mother Spirit. Our super universe is all three so you can either be Godfused, Sonfused, or Spiritfused. Sometimes the process does not work correctly and Jesus will have to force the fusion to take place, or, in rare cases, you may have to restart again on a primitive world.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
God created Himself, then He created the Eternal Son (Not Jesus), then God and the Eternal Son created Mother Spirit.


There are three levels in heaven. The innermost level is where God is and where ascended beings live who have been chosen by God. The second level is the Eternal Son's level where He lives and where ascended beings live who have been chosen by Him. The third level is the Mother Spirit level where she lives and where ascended beings who have been chosen by her live.

Outside of heaven, in the material universe, there are seven super universes. One for God, one for the Eternal Son, one for Mother Spirit, one for both God and the Eternal Son, one for both God and the Mother Spirit, one for both the Eternal Son and Mother Spirit, then one for God, the Eternal Son, and Mother Spirit all together. Our universe is all three of the Trinity. Each super universe has differences in life forms that I cannot explain.

The purpose of all of this is so that the Trinity beings, most importantly God, can experience love.

The way beings are saved is when the Thought Adjuster fuses with a beings soul. The Thought Adjuster is a fragment of God. It is usually new and infantile in experience although sometimes beings (Like Jesus) get evolved Thought Adjusters when they bestow as beings on a primitive world.

The Thought Adjuster creates choice because primitive minds have trouble thinking new ideas. The Thought Adjuster is the tiny angel on one shoulder and the tiny devil on the other. It wants to see what your mind will choose. Will you do the right thing or will you do the selfish thing? If you grow up and continually make selfish choices the Thought Adjuster will become quiet and it will not fuse with your soul and you will never go to heaven.

If you exist in a super universe that is the Eternal Son's super universe then you can only be Sonfused and you will ascend to the Eternal Son's area of heaven. If you are in Gods super universe you can only be Godfused. The same for the Mother Spirit. Our super universe is all three so you can either be Godfused, Sonfused, or Spiritfused. Sometimes the process does not work correctly and Jesus will have to force the fusion to take place, or, in rare cases, you may have to restart again on a primitive world.
No, I still don't understand??
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
God created Himself, then He created the Eternal Son (Not Jesus), then God and the Eternal Son created Mother Spirit.
Well, right off the bat you've got a logical absurdity that will never hold water, which doesn't bode well for whatever follows.

There are three levels in heaven. The innermost level is where God is and where ascended beings live who have been chosen by God. The second level is the Eternal Son's level where He lives and where ascended beings live who have been chosen by Him. The third level is the Mother Spirit level where she lives and where ascended beings who have been chosen by her live.
Yup. Lacking any attempt to back up your claims this is no more convincing than your opening remark.


Have a good day.

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Super Universe

Defender of God
Well, right off the bat you've got a logical absurdity that will never hold water, which doesn't bode well for what that follows.


Yup. Lacking any attempt to back up your claims this is no more convincing than your opening remark.


Have a good day.

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The Mother Spirit is not Gods mother or the Eternal Son's mother. She is the Mother Spirit to other beings, but, of course, you could not figure that out on your own because someone always has to explain everything to you.

You put yourself in a small box and now you're stuck and can't imagine your way out of it.
 

Super Universe

Defender of God
I would like to know how God created himself.

In the beginning, God created....

Himself.

How does that work?

Like @angellous_evangellous used to say, "Who's your daddy"?

I will write up the answer and post it here. It's somewhat long and complicated so it will take me about 15 minutes or more.

If you don't believe that things can "pop" into existence then you might want to do some research on virtual particles. It's accepted physics.

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This is rough. I think it's close but not entirely accurate.

In the beginning a particle appeared in the void. This particle was followed by another particle. From and infinite source more and more particles flowed into the void like a meandering stream. The particles had sentience, they were of one mind. Then the particles formed a straight line, then a triangle, then a rectangle, then a circle, and more complicated shapes and this infant form of God began overlapping some shapes. God was learning, evolving.

God disconnected one of the shapes, then another, and another. He decided that these shapes could represent a certain value based upon their shape and size. God then realized that He could make a more complex shape active using the saved shapes as code for certain values that relate to certain actions. At first the actions were simple and primitive but the new form quickly evolved. This is the Eternal Son.

Now God and the Eternal Son set to work to form another complex shape and make it active. God showed the Eternal Son how it all worked and another being was formed, the Mother Spirit who would become the mother to many other beings.

At first these three beings were very logical. They did not have emotions. They did not even know what emotions were but once they decided to expand their shape forming business they knew they had to give these forms a desire to accomplish things. If the Trinity beings had to explain everything to every being they formed, it would be very tedious. So they formed extensive code that the formed shapes could access that gave them preset instructions, instinct.
 
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Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Yes. You don't have to accept it.

I'm sure you have a much better explanation. Can't wait to hear it.

Does there have to be a better explanation? It's all just guessing, baseless conjecture, and idle speculation.

There are some aspects of religion which I find favorable, such as basic rules of living and getting along with one's fellow humans. Following the Golden Rule, not lying, not stealing, not killing or coveting thy neighbor's wife's oxen - that all makes sense. One doesn't even have to bring up the supernatural to be able to see the practical value of having certain codes and rules of conduct for all to live by.

But religion also tries to explain things about who or what "God" may be or things about the nature of the universe and our existence, how it all began, etc. The Trinity also had some prominence in the church I was raised in. We had to do the Signs of the Cross and believe in the "Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit."

Apparently, it was important that we believed in that; it wasn't simply enough that we did our best to live a decent life and be kind and charitable towards others. We also had to perform rituals, recite prayers, and actually believe in the abstract theological concepts the church was teaching us.

You ask if there is a "better explanation," and my guess is that there probably is one somewhere. When one considers the immense vastness which we call "the universe," along with intricate complexities of nature, right down to our cells and molecules, then whoever or whatever it might have been which "created" all of this out of nothing (if it was "created") was probably something far bigger, more powerful, and complicated than anything we puny humans could possibly understand.

In that context, the only "better explanation" is to say that "there is no explanation." There is no explanation because nobody really knows, and given the complexities of what we're dealing with, there's no possible way that any human could know. At best, what we're dealing with is a dumbed-down children's story, a symbolic representation.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
God created Himself, then He created the Eternal Son (Not Jesus), then God and the Eternal Son created Mother Spirit.


There are three levels in heaven. The innermost level is where God is and where ascended beings live who have been chosen by God. The second level is the Eternal Son's level where He lives and where ascended beings live who have been chosen by Him. The third level is the Mother Spirit level where she lives and where ascended beings who have been chosen by her live.

Outside of heaven, in the material universe, there are seven super universes. One for God, one for the Eternal Son, one for Mother Spirit, one for both God and the Eternal Son, one for both God and the Mother Spirit, one for both the Eternal Son and Mother Spirit, then one for God, the Eternal Son, and Mother Spirit all together. Our universe is all three of the Trinity. Each super universe has differences in life forms that I cannot explain.

The purpose of all of this is so that the Trinity beings, most importantly God, can experience love.

The way beings are saved is when the Thought Adjuster fuses with a beings soul. The Thought Adjuster is a fragment of God. It is usually new and infantile in experience although sometimes beings (Like Jesus) get evolved Thought Adjusters when they bestow as beings on a primitive world.

The Thought Adjuster creates choice because primitive minds have trouble thinking new ideas. The Thought Adjuster is the tiny angel on one shoulder and the tiny devil on the other. It wants to see what your mind will choose. Will you do the right thing or will you do the selfish thing? If you grow up and continually make selfish choices the Thought Adjuster will become quiet and it will not fuse with your soul and you will never go to heaven.

If you exist in a super universe that is the Eternal Son's super universe then you can only be Sonfused and you will ascend to the Eternal Son's area of heaven. If you are in Gods super universe you can only be Godfused. The same for the Mother Spirit. Our super universe is all three so you can either be Godfused, Sonfused, or Spiritfused. Sometimes the process does not work correctly and Jesus will have to force the fusion to take place, or, in rare cases, you may have to restart again on a primitive world.

Where did you get this from?
 

Super Universe

Defender of God
Does there have to be a better explanation? It's all just guessing, baseless conjecture, and idle speculation.

There are some aspects of religion which I find favorable, such as basic rules of living and getting along with one's fellow humans. Following the Golden Rule, not lying, not stealing, not killing or coveting thy neighbor's wife's oxen - that all makes sense. One doesn't even have to bring up the supernatural to be able to see the practical value of having certain codes and rules of conduct for all to live by.

But religion also tries to explain things about who or what "God" may be or things about the nature of the universe and our existence, how it all began, etc. The Trinity also had some prominence in the church I was raised in. We had to do the Signs of the Cross and believe in the "Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit."

Apparently, it was important that we believed in that; it wasn't simply enough that we did our best to live a decent life and be kind and charitable towards others. We also had to perform rituals, recite prayers, and actually believe in the abstract theological concepts the church was teaching us.

You ask if there is a "better explanation," and my guess is that there probably is one somewhere. When one considers the immense vastness which we call "the universe," along with intricate complexities of nature, right down to our cells and molecules, then whoever or whatever it might have been which "created" all of this out of nothing (if it was "created") was probably something far bigger, more powerful, and complicated than anything we puny humans could possibly understand.

In that context, the only "better explanation" is to say that "there is no explanation." There is no explanation because nobody really knows, and given the complexities of what we're dealing with, there's no possible way that any human could know. At best, what we're dealing with is a dumbed-down children's story, a symbolic representation.

Two social anthropologists went to a tribe and explained to them that people had gone to the moon. The tribe said "No, no, no, there is no way to do something like that." The tribal people thought they were smarter than the visitors because the visitors didn't even know what plants provided medicine or how to build a hut out of sticks or how to hunt monkeys with a bow and arrow.

The educated people then tried to explain that the earth was a sphere that spins as it moves around the sun and that causes the seasons but the tribe did not accept it. They said there was no way to know that.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Two social anthropologists went to a tribe and explained to them that people had gone to the moon. The tribe said "No, no, no, there is no way to do something like that." The tribal people thought they were smarter than the visitors because the visitors didn't even know what plants provided medicine or how to build a hut out of sticks or how to hunt monkeys with a bow and arrow.

The educated people then tried to explain that the earth was a sphere that spins as it moves around the sun and that causes the seasons but the tribe did not accept it. They said there was no way to know that.

Humans explaining to other humans what humans have done is not really analogous here. A key difference is that those social anthropologists could very easily take one or more members of the tribe, show them NASA or some other space launching facility, and conceivably take them into a rocket and show them the Earth from orbit. They could do this today, here on Earth, without any need for "faith" or "belief" whatsoever.
 

Super Universe

Defender of God
Humans explaining to other humans what humans have done is not really analogous here. A key difference is that those social anthropologists could very easily take one or more members of the tribe, show them NASA or some other space launching facility, and conceivably take them into a rocket and show them the Earth from orbit. They could do this today, here on Earth, without any need for "faith" or "belief" whatsoever.

You could conceivably die and wake up at the next level and what would you realize? What would you instantly know about the universe?
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
You could conceivably die and wake up at the next level and what would you realize? What would you instantly know about the universe?

At this point, I don't know if I would wake up or if there is a "next level." Some people claim there is a "next level," but there's no real hard, verifiable evidence of that.
 
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