Segev Moran
Well-Known Member
I Debate a lot.
I love to share my ideas and hear ideas other people have.
I love being exposed to many different points of view people have.
Unfortunately, many times, when i debate theists, they have many arguments against evolution, yet all of them (without an exception) are due to misconception of what the evolution theory is.
The top ones are those:
1. Evolution fails to explain the ORIGIN of life.
This is wrong. not because evolution can explain the origin of life, because evolution doesn't deal with the question of the origin of life.
Evolution deals with the process of explaining how all species on earth, evolved from a single first life form.
It doesn't try to answer the question of how this life form created.
Evolution is a biological theory. The origin of life are physical and chemical ones.
(although many physical and chemical fact support the evolution process)
2. Species evolved from literally one living cell.
This is wrong. When a first living cell is mentioned, the meaning here is for the first cells that had the ability to replicate. There could be billions, there could be only thousands, we don't have an answer yet.
It is also possible life didn't origin on earth, rather on some far planets and where spread to earth on meteors and asteroids.
3. I Can accept micro evolution, but there is no proof for macro evolution
This is wrong. There are thousands of proofs. Evolution does not happen as follows:
A => A => A => A => A => A => A=>H
rather:
A => B => C => D => E => F => G => H
The changes are small, they are indeed "micro" evolution, but after many many many many many many micro evolution to the same group of animals, they become so different, that they can no longer procreate with other kind of species they evolved from and thus a new specie is generated.
So: If we have a specie A, that is spread for example on land that is divided into warm environment, and cold environment.
Slowly over millions of years, Specie A will now be divided to two groups:
A that is more adjusted to warm (Aw), and A that is more adjusted to cold (Ac
).
As long as Aw can procreate with Ac, it is still specie A (this will be less common though, as the Aw would survive better in the warm environment, and avoid living among Ac and vise versa. (although some occasions will probably occur create an Awc )
Now after some more millions of years, the changes between Aw and Ac are so big, that those same occasions that Aw tried to procreate with Ac, the offspring died very quickly
After some more millions of years, the changes are now so big, that when Aw and Ac try to procreate that is is rarely possible as the procreation (internal) mechanism changed so much, it can barely "merge".
After some more years, the changes are so big, that Aw now can never procreate with Ac, to the point they biologically unable.
In the time, A now have evolved into B and C.
or in short:
[GALLERY=media, 8000]A2BC by Segev Moran posted May 11, 2017 at 12:29 AM[/GALLERY]
4. Evolution and everything else in our universe, is how God "works".
I can't claim it is wrong, as there is no way to falsify such claim.
It will however raise many question that most of them don't paint this God's face in a "bright color".
If you find any of my explanations is wrong, i'll be glad to hear your opinion.
cheers
I love to share my ideas and hear ideas other people have.
I love being exposed to many different points of view people have.
Unfortunately, many times, when i debate theists, they have many arguments against evolution, yet all of them (without an exception) are due to misconception of what the evolution theory is.
The top ones are those:
1. Evolution fails to explain the ORIGIN of life.
This is wrong. not because evolution can explain the origin of life, because evolution doesn't deal with the question of the origin of life.
Evolution deals with the process of explaining how all species on earth, evolved from a single first life form.
It doesn't try to answer the question of how this life form created.
Evolution is a biological theory. The origin of life are physical and chemical ones.
(although many physical and chemical fact support the evolution process)
2. Species evolved from literally one living cell.
This is wrong. When a first living cell is mentioned, the meaning here is for the first cells that had the ability to replicate. There could be billions, there could be only thousands, we don't have an answer yet.
It is also possible life didn't origin on earth, rather on some far planets and where spread to earth on meteors and asteroids.
3. I Can accept micro evolution, but there is no proof for macro evolution
This is wrong. There are thousands of proofs. Evolution does not happen as follows:
A => A => A => A => A => A => A=>H
rather:
A => B => C => D => E => F => G => H
The changes are small, they are indeed "micro" evolution, but after many many many many many many micro evolution to the same group of animals, they become so different, that they can no longer procreate with other kind of species they evolved from and thus a new specie is generated.
So: If we have a specie A, that is spread for example on land that is divided into warm environment, and cold environment.
Slowly over millions of years, Specie A will now be divided to two groups:
A that is more adjusted to warm (Aw), and A that is more adjusted to cold (Ac
).As long as Aw can procreate with Ac, it is still specie A (this will be less common though, as the Aw would survive better in the warm environment, and avoid living among Ac and vise versa. (although some occasions will probably occur create an Awc
)Now after some more millions of years, the changes between Aw and Ac are so big, that those same occasions that Aw tried to procreate with Ac, the offspring died very quickly
After some more millions of years, the changes are now so big, that when Aw and Ac try to procreate that is is rarely possible as the procreation (internal) mechanism changed so much, it can barely "merge".
After some more years, the changes are so big, that Aw now can never procreate with Ac, to the point they biologically unable.
In the time, A now have evolved into B and C.
or in short:
[GALLERY=media, 8000]A2BC by Segev Moran posted May 11, 2017 at 12:29 AM[/GALLERY]
4. Evolution and everything else in our universe, is how God "works".
I can't claim it is wrong, as there is no way to falsify such claim.
It will however raise many question that most of them don't paint this God's face in a "bright color".
If you find any of my explanations is wrong, i'll be glad to hear your opinion.
cheers
