It is only evidence that the writers of the Gospel were aware of what most people would know of that time. You are only making a "So what?" argument so far. It does not support magic Jesus.
I am just supporting the claim that you asked me to support, if it is a “so what” claim then why did you ask for support?
The fact that the authors got all these details about Jesus and his surroundings correct show that the authors where well informed, and where in a position to know stuff about Jesus. ..for example they would have known if he was buried or thrown in to a common grave.
Sorry, now you have to support your claims first. I accepted what most think is moderately well known, You are being inconsistent again. Are you going to support each and every one of your claims? If you want to make me do that work, which I could but do not feel like, then you need to support yours first. My accepting your unsupported claims was obviously contingent on you supporting mine.
You don’t see the point.
You are the one with the ridiculous standards , you are the one who claims that only documents written by witnesses are acceptable………………. So provide your documents written by witnesses that show that people where buried in graves after being crucified………….or admit that your standards are riducously too high
I agree that most crucified people where thrown in common graves ……… but using your ridicuouls standards there wouldn’t be evidence for that claim
Once again the Hebrews used crucifixion too at times.
how do you know that?
I have seen that people crucified were sometimes in tombs. I have not seen that they were from Roman crucifixions. That appears to be an assumption on your part. Once again the Hebrews used crucifixion too at times.
An example of a guy who was burried after being crusified by the romans
Examination of Yehohanan’s bones showed one of the many Roman crucifixion methods. Both of his feet had been nailed together to the cross with a wooden plaque while his legs were bent to one side. His arm bones revealed scratches where the nails had passed between. Both legs were badly fractured, most likely from a crushing blow meant to end his suffering and bring about a faster death. Yehohanan was probably a political dissident against Roman oppression. In death his bones have helped fill in gaps in the history of crucifixion.
A Tomb in Jerusalem Reveals the History of Crucifixion and Roman Crucifixion Methods
Once again, only about the places and leaders at that time. The authors of the Gospels were classically trained in Koine Greek. They do not appear to have been any of the apostles who were according to the Bible unlettered. I think one such verse is Acts 4 13. People at this time of widespread literacy keep forgetting that at that time literacy was much rarer than it is today.
Do you know who the president from Israel was 40 years ago? (Probably not) the average person doesn’t know that type of details, only people who lived in Israel or people with access to good sources would know who was the president of Israel 40 years ago
The same is true with the Gospels, the average person who lived in the years 80s or so would not know who was the governor of Judea in the 30s only a wtiness or someone with good sources would have known that. ………… this means that the authors of the gospels ether lived in that area in the 30s or they had access to good sources
But I have an open mind, if you don’t accept this as evidence that the authors were well informed, please tell me what criteria would you use and why the gospels fail
obviously contingent on you supporting mine.
We´ve been over this before,
You are expected to support your claims, regardless if I support mine or not,
And this is the sort of strong claim that does require evidence. The only sources that I now of it are the Gospels. You are trying to use circular reasoning here.
A Tomb in Jerusalem Reveals the History of Crucifixion and Roman Crucifixion Methods
Well we have the testimony of well-informed people, who are telling us that Jesus was crucified for basifying against the Jewish God ………. What alternative hypothesis do you suggest? Why is that hypothesis better than mine?
Not to mention that Paul confirms that Jesus was buried…………..Paul knew James, the brother of Jesus, so obviously he had access to good reliable testimonies on what happened to Jesus after he died. (people usually know if their brothers where buried)………………..if Jesus would have been thrown to a common grave, James (-and Paul) would have known that