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The Receding Floodwaters Evidence for Noah's Flood Michael Oard

gnostic

The Lost One
this is the best video about the global flood of noah's time i have seen.

this documentary is well produced and pleasant to watch and describes conclusively how the geomorphology of the earth was shaped by the rising and receding genesis flood waters 4400 yrs ago.


I don’t know if you are aware of this or not, that not all Muslims believe in a global flood.

Most Muslims that I have encountered here, think the Flood in the Quran was that of very large regional flood.

And since the Quran don’t use date (centuries, millennia, millions of years, billions of years, etc), it is therefore not possible to determine the age of the Earth, or that of the universe, therefore the Muslims refused to give the numbers of years for the Earth’s creation or the creation of life.

You are the only Muslim I know of, here at RF, who think the Earth is about 6000 years old and the Flood was global. You are the only Muslim I know of who believe in Young Earth Creationism.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
OK, forget school, then. It's all a massive, centuries-old, worldwide conspiracy. By whom? To what end? Don't ask.
So what does an impartial review of the empirical evidence indicate? There is no evidence of a flood that holds up to scrutiny, and there is massive evidence against it -- which anyone can review.

The flood story is folklore. Belief in it is faith. Are you claiming faith is superior to knowledge?
How are you defining "irrational?" What is the rational evidence of God or of the flood?

I don't believe you're aware of the evidence that populations of animals, plants and people lived right through the period you claim for the flood, apparently unaware it ever happened.


The theme of God O a stone body that has to exist created first, in total self natural owned form is not fake....it is relative to science. It is the only body that we all live on.

The theme of God O the stone body philosophy said that the Earth atmospheric body, in which we consciously exist as the thinker began its journey from ^ volcanic mountain that released its spirit as a hot dense state...the sacrificed spirit being a hot gas.

For cold gas spirit supports our living existence...you sacrifice it and we all die.

Quite a very simple true explanation of science relative to God, science and history on Earth.

What is also relative is VISION...that existed on Earth in natural atmospheric conditions, the atmosphere records even if we are living or not.

Which is what AI said as male memory in sciences that stated how he gained original theories for science.

On a known Sun attacked/converted irradiated by UFO mass Earth.....that attacked/converted the body of GOD O. God Earth survived that attack, it was flooded up to the mountain tip...and only the UFO mass atop the mountain peak out of the water got disintegrated....as a male researching and studying scientific past God Earth concepts.

For God O Earth owned materials and his science.....the building of stone a pyramid.

As actual known and stated science male memory and history, how I personally gained my male human theories for science on Earth.

Seeing we only live on a Planet with its own atmosphere sitting in space....if you cared to reason correctly about history of a male and the history of his owned human invention, the state of science.

In natural history the event to own a Wooden Ark, Carpenter built tectonic carbonisation/wooden effect to stone converted by radiation mass....is for it to go dry, by losing its underground owned HELL wells...lava....that erupt by mountain law returned in science ^ volcanoes.

When the wells go dry, it also involves a huge interactive atmospheric and spatial heating cause and effect, where God O the planet drops into colder space itself.

Known science caused history.

Plates snapping and cities plunged beneath water, is a flood effect...which you do not seem to be taking as self male advised reasoning about why archaeology pursued male self evidence against his own occult science history of self attack.

For the conscious human perception is always a self owned human struggle for its own self survival against what it always said was its dis spirited Satanist advice....the cosmos.

How information is taught as a concept as a Teacher is always the relativity of how a concept is idealised and accepted or it gets ignored as being irrelevant.

Which then is a scientific self advice, it is only irrelevant to you in a research for you realize that you cannot apply it to newly gained science advice from the wisdom of the ages.

Why you choose to ignore its teaching....cause and effect conditions.

Seeing God and the teachings of a relative O stone body, the only place we own living, was said to be the ONLY GOD that science ever talked about.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
this is the best video about the global flood of noah's time i have seen.

this documentary is well produced and pleasant to watch and describes conclusively how the geomorphology of the earth was shaped by the rising and receding genesis flood waters 4400 yrs ago.


Oh dear. This is as valid as Pecos Bill riding the Widowmaker to create the Grand Canyon.
 
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sooda

Veteran Member
Actually, it would be more precise to say he is a Quran thumper.

He is a Muslim YEC creationist, not a Christian YEC creationist.

BUT it doesn’t matter, because he is sprouting exactly the same pseudoscience crap as any Christian YEC creationist.

All the Muslims that I know take the global flood story as a myth.. but petroleum engineering and geology has had a profound impact on their "literalism" over the past 70 years.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
how can you say that he is ignorant and that he lies if you don't even watch the video? if you feel threatened by the content then maybe the foundation of your opinions is unstable.

No one feels "threatened".... just embarrassed for you.

Ugarit - Ancient History Encyclopedia
Ancient History Encyclopediaugarit
Mar 22, 2012 · Despite composing a minority of the corpus, the most famous of the Ugaritic texts are the mythical poetic texts, such as the Baal Cycle, due to the light they shed on the Hebrew Bible. Found among the texts of Ugarit are the typical Ancient Near Eastern texts such as the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Mesopotamian Flood Story.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
this is the best video about the global flood of noah's time i have seen.

this documentary is well produced and pleasant to watch and describes conclusively how the geomorphology of the earth was shaped by the rising and receding genesis flood waters 4400 yrs ago.


i'm not going to waste that much time listing to creationist gish galloping drivel.

I suggest you extract from the video what you consider to be the single best argument / evidence and present it here so that there is some topic to actually discuss.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
there has been no progress.

was the building of railroads progress? they killed the buffalo, rounded up the indians, and used the railroads to transport ore for the manufacture of huge engines of war and destruction. what progress was made? none. the world became industrialized, fenced off, painted over, paved, desecrated and polluted. rivers choked off with dams, clogged up with sewage, oceans littered with plastics. no progress has been made. humanity has become more demented than it ever was just look at the idiotic horrific games young people spend playing in some cases many hours per day amounting to 10s of thousands of hours over the years. now they are littering the sky with spacex pornstarlink satellites. is this progress? no. all they are doing is advancing their demonic campaign against heaven.
may Allah grant us the privilege of witnessing the destruction of those who hate him, those who are indifferent to the suffering and misery that is in the earth.

I trust you live in a cave and don't use any 21st century technology, or products of such technology?

Ow wait, you're using your internet capable device to post here...

Ostrich alert.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
how do you define progress

To understand more today about reality then yesterday.

Such progress in understanding is what made the internet, and the devices that connect to it, possible.
So yes, it surely is the direct result of progress.


is developing more sophisticated ways to bomb people progress?

The technology required to accomplish it can't be developed without learning how physics and chemistry etc works.

So yes, scientific progress is required to unlock the ability to make bombs.
Just like it is required to unlock the ability to create new ways of transport, medicines, etc.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
is a new born baby capable of surviving without its mother?

Yes.

An acquintance of mine's wife died in child birth. The child was fine.
So he basically went to the hospital with a pregnant wife and had to return home with only a newborn baby. Heartbraking really...

But in any case, the child is a fine 7-year old in perfect health today. Nothing wrong with it whatsoever. The guy is raising the kid by himself.

So no mother, and the newborn is just fine.

since a newborn baby like an unborn one is dependent on its mother does this mean it needs to be killed

Well, since I just told you that newborn can perfectly survive without their mother, i'ld say you are asking a loaded invalid question.

why do people bend over backwards to justify the murder of unborn babies?

In an abortion at say 3 weeks, there's no baby. There's a blob of cells.

is a one year old child capable of surviving without its mother?

yes.

is a two year old or a three year old or a 10 year old capable of surviving without its mother?

Yes, yes and yes.

is a mother capable of surviving independently without the support of others?

Yes

your arguments are shallow and the product of atheistic and materialistic thinking and this is what they lead to - Canadian Mother Strangles Newborn, Gets No Jail Time and Judge Defends Infanticide By Comparing It to Abortion

No idea what you are talking about
 
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