but that is not what is written in the Quran today.
Really did you read this part Pegg?
Bismillah said:
Secondly you are using differences in translation of the Qur'an into Arabic to show that the Qur'an has changed? Do you see where you have gone wrong or no? The Qur'an is not Le Saint Coran or Yusuf Ali's the Holy Qur'an. The Qur'an is Al-Qur'an in its pure Arabic form.
So what you would have to do to prove your point would be to show me a sahih hadith which questioned the methodology of the compilation of the Qur'an.
Until then, this hadith continues to support my statements in that the Sahaba and the reciter agreed on the recitation of the Qur'an (important because second generation reciters agreed with the first generation) and rejected external changes to it.
I however, have already posted hadiths showing just how the Qur'an was physically recorded once narrated by the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) how that was created into a transcript and how that transcript was created into the Qur'an. For reference here it is.
After the battle of Yammama there were significant amounts of the Sahaba martyred who had memorized the Qur'an by heart under the Prophet. Thus Abu Bakr (may Allah be pleased with him) ordered Zaid (may Allah be pleased with him) adopted son of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) along with others to collect and compile the verses and chapters of the Qur'an. They did so and replicated several copies of the Qur'an.
Narrated Zaid bin Thabit Al-Ansari:
who was one of those who used to write the Divine Revelation: Abu Bakr sent for me after the (heavy) casualties among the warriors (of the battle) of Yamama (where a great number of Qurra' were killed). 'Umar was present with Abu Bakr who said, 'Umar has come to me and said, The people have suffered heavy casualties on the day of (the battle of) Yamama, and I am afraid that there will be more casualties among the Qurra' (those who know the Qur'an by heart) at other battle-fields, whereby a large part of the Qur'an may be lost, unless you collect it. And I am of the opinion that you should collect the Qur'an." Abu Bakr added, "I said to 'Umar, 'How can I do something which Allah's Apostle has not done?' 'Umar said (to me), 'By Allah, it is (really) a good thing.' So 'Umar kept on pressing, trying to persuade me to accept his proposal, till Allah opened my bosom for it and I had the same opinion as 'Umar." (Zaid bin Thabit added
Umar was sitting with him (Abu Bakr) and was not speaking. me). "You are a wise young man and we do not suspect you (of telling lies or of forgetfulness): and you used to write the Divine Inspiration for Allah's Apostle. Therefore, look for the Qur'an and collect it (in one manuscript). " By Allah, if he (Abu Bakr) had ordered me to shift one of the mountains (from its place) it would not have been harder for me than what he had ordered me concerning the collection of the Qur'an. I said to both of them, "How dare you do a thing which the Prophet has not done?" Abu Bakr said, "By Allah, it is (really) a good thing. So I kept on arguing with him about it till Allah opened my bosom for that which He had opened the bosoms of Abu Bakr and Umar. So I started locating Quranic material and collecting it from parchments, scapula, leaf-stalks of date palms and from the memories of men (who knew it by heart). I found with Khuzaima two Verses of Surat-at-Tauba which I had not found with anybody else, (and they were):--
"Verily there has come to you an Apostle (Muhammad) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty He (Muhammad) is ardently anxious over you (to be rightly guided)" (9.128)
The manuscript on which the Quran was collected, remained with Abu Bakr till Allah took him unto Him, and then with 'Umar till Allah took him unto Him, and finally it remained with Hafsa, Umar's daughter.
During the Caliphate of Uthman (may Allah be pleased with him) Islam spread to Persia, the Levant, and North Africa. These new Muslims spoke different dialects or completely different languages than those of the Meccan Arabs.
The Qur'an continued to be read according to the seven ahruf until midway through Caliph 'Uthman's rule when some confusion arose in the outlying provinces concerning the Qur'an's recitation. Some Arab tribes had began to boast about the superiority of their ahruf and a rivalry began to develop. At the same time, some new Muslims also began mixing the various forms of recitation out of ignorance. Caliph 'Uthman decided to make official copies of the Qur'an according to the dialect of the Quraysh and send them along with the Qur'anic reciters to the major centres of Islam. This decision was approved by Sahaabah and all unofficial copies of the Qur'an were destroyed. Following the distribution of the official copies, all the other ahruf were dropped and the Qur'an began to be read in only one harf. Thus, the Qur'an which is available through out the world today is written and recited only according to the harf of Quraysh. (Ibid)
Sir William Muir famous Orientalist and Critic of Islam said:
The recension of 'Uthman has been handed down to us unaltered. So carefully, indeed, has it been preserved, that there are no variations of importance, - we might almost say no variations at all, - amongst the innumerable copies of the Koran scattered throughout the vast bounds of empire of Islam. Contending and embittered factions, taking their rise in the murder of 'Uthman himself within a quarter of a century from the death of Muhammad have ever since rent the Muslim world. Yet but ONE KORAN has always been current amongst them.... There is probably in the world no other work which has remained twelve centuries with so pure a text.
As I said Pegg, the methodology and compilation of the Qur'an was faultless and supervised by a company of Sahabah who did so in the face of both physical evidence in conjunction with the memory of those who had memorized the Qur'an.
edit: By the way Pegg I wasn't talking about Hadiths in relation to those of the ahruf, simply those that have no precedence or meaning to be here. They are abundant.
