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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by MikeDwight, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. Regiomontanus

    Regiomontanus non est ad astra mollis e terris via

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    Who cares what Mike Godwin thinks? Sometimes a Hitler analogy is appropriate. Godwin's "rule" is lame and usually those who invoke it do so because they have lost the argument.
     
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  2. MikeDwight

    MikeDwight Well-Known Member

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    Well Really, I perfectly understand the popular trend of Hitler Equations. I'm actually examining Hitler and talking about the half the speeches people don't talk about. It looks mundane, but, what the other half of Hitler's quotes are about it creating the Third Riech, is a Third Roman Empire. This is a justification to attack any of the other Nations. The Nazis were a very open group about offensive action. You can find a lot of wars that are bickering about being an aggressor.
     
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    I am not sure I understand the intent of the OP, but if one is to discuss "Christianity" and its origins and authenticity, the first century is a good place to start. Jesus and his apostles gave same very pointed warnings about an apostasy that was to occur after they were gone. This apostasy (a·po·sta·siʹa comes from the verb a·phiʹste·mi, literally meaning “stand away from.”) was a foretold event, so we have a warning about a "falling away" from the truth of Christ's teachings in the early history of the church.

    In his parable of the "wheat and the weeds" Jesus said that the devil would sow "weeds" of counterfeit Christianity in the same field as he had sown the wheat. He did this "while men were sleeping".
    What does this mean? It is believed that the "weeds" in this parable were well known to Jewish farmers. It is "bearded darnel" and it is often called "wheat's evil twin". It so resembles wheat in the early growing stages that it is impossible to tell the difference until the harvest time, when they do not resemble one another at all. Both were to "grow together" until then.

    This is a powerful illustration because the ones who were "sleeping" were doing so spiritually. (2 Peter 2:1-3; 1 Timothy 4:1-3; Acts 20:29-30) They were not awake to the gradual drawing away from the truth taught by Christ and the introduction of a substitute truth taught by men...these also introduced a substitute god...a trinitarian godhead.

    The Roman Catholic Church is the official birth of Christendom. Instituted by an astute politician who saw a way to consolidate his religiously divided empire by blending the Christians and the pagans into one "Universal" (Catholic) religion. But this could never have happened if Christianity hadn't already been in a sad and sorry state. After all, it had three centuries for the foretold rot to set in.

    So from the Bible's perspective, there is nothing surprising about what transpired in the last 2 millenniums. It was foretold, and it happened just as Jesus and his apostles said it would. What we see in the world today are the "weeds" of false Christianity, competing for the people gullible enough to actually believe that what they are practicing is genuine Christianity.

    According to Daniel, it was only at the "time of the end" that God would provide the necessary knowledge to separate out a people and give them a thorough 'cleansing, whitening and refining' (Daniel 12:4; 9-10).....there was so much spiritual impurity to remove. Some thought that the Reformation would clean up the rot and unite true Christians in the faith and get rid the travesty that the Roman church had perpetrated.....but all it did was fragment them even further.

    So here we are......deep into the time of the end and people are completely confused as to what constitutes real Christian teaching....and what doesn't.

    So where are they to go from here?
     
  5. MikeDwight

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    [​IMG] That's pretty nice. What's that gonna do to Victorian morals? Jesus Christ wasn't domesticated , birds of a feather flock together. Women who are domesticated, flowers of a type keep up the hype.
     
  6. MikeDwight

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    Nah OK Well both Constantine declaring Constantinople East Rome, and the Orthodox Creeds meeting with him from the Patriarchs or Churches of the Byzantines and all the nations in the Byzantines, and the Pope declaring a singular Latin Church, are politicians in the sense you mention. Do you see the important difference here? The Pope has said there is only One Church? Do the orthodox have a problem with 20 Churches from their Nations? Is that a problem? They all met to make the Creeds we all subscribe to? That's not a problem. The Pope was the Bishop of Rome, with the Bishop of Constantinople,Bishop of Antioch, and Bishop of Jerusalem, in the Pentarchy, and as it later represented every Nation of the Orthodox, and the Orthodox wished for the Pope to be Continue to be included, the title Pope came about clearly from the Pope asserting Himself as a Dictator in the religious world. That is how the Eastern Roman Empire must be insulted by the man who declares the Holy Roman Empire is Germany, while Germany is neither Holy or Roman, far from it at this time. Its a title from the Pope.

    Bible Believers are the very same who are led to these influential conclusion just look throughout Acts which is just the very heartland of Presbyterian Faith. I encourage all of Acts 17, this is the land of the Greek Byzantines which warmly welcome the message of Christ from the background of philosophers not civil orderlies, the Byzantines adopt the Cross while Rome has Nero burning people alive, fact of the matter, where Christian faith is concerned. The evidence about a Church in Rome is not there. The 7 Churches of Revelation are in Anatolian Greece Byzantium. We should carefully consider these events and the Orthodox. I encouraged all Acts 17. Here is Acts 17:16. Consider how the Presbyterians Themselves are in Charge of naming a very Old god in Korea, who used to enjoy exclusive worship, not in Korea in the 1900s but used to enjoy exclusive worship as the God of Creation, then look that it only took 2 Chapters of Acts to arrive here! People should consider how these old persons without internet think, shouldn't we! This Very God of Creation whom, you ignorantly worship, I Proclaim to you.
    Acts 17:16 Bible Gateway passage: Acts 17 - New International Version
     
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