okay ppl. the da vinci code is under FICTION. do we know what fiction means? yes we do.
The Davinci Code is fiction.
So are the Gnostic gospels as far as I`m concerned.
But if we`re no longer to debate fiction then from my position I can no longer debate the Bible either.
as for gnostic gospels, thats wrong.
How are these documents "wrong"?
Uhhhhh, yep... should my opposition be based on style? that the word Gnostic hurts my mouth?
Baptist, Mormons, Lutherans, and many many other sects of Christianity don`t
pay heed to many or any Catholic canons either.
Do you oppose their beliefs?
Do you hold them invalid as well?
What about Islam, Judaism, Budhism, they pay no heed at all to Catholic canon do you oppose their beliefs?
This is one reason why I cannot base my moral outlook on any religion.
It usually requires unexamined intolerance.
This is purely conjecture on my part but judging from the vibe I`m getting from your last post I believe your opposition to these Christians lies more in the percieved threat they held for your church than any actual knowledge you have of their texts.
That is why they were rejected and destroyed by the Church.
Truth? Not quite..... do you have a timeline to back that up?
I`ll find what I can of a timeline for you however I would have to use mostly written communication between and about the two sects (Orthadox and Gnostic) considering we can never know what exactly of the text themselves was destroyed by the church.
I believe I can date these texts and other written works by Gnostics to well before Constantines organization of the Church.
WHAT? Equally evil is ok with you? Kinda like "jumbo shrimp"
Equality of something has nothing to do with what someone considers a moral standard.
The fact remains that women could do anything any man could among the Gnostics.
That is equality.
While I`m thinking of it could you please point me to some type of Gnostic gospel or documentation that leads you to this claim of Gnostic Evil?
You`ll understand if I prefer it came from something the Gnostics said or wrote themselves and not the Vatican library.
Because I think you`re stretching the meaning of this belief.
It`s my understanding that they believed all matter was created by a lesser God..their Satan in a way.
Everything good and spiritual was created by the one true God and it was their responsibilty to attain enlightenment and in this way become a more spiritual being and closer to the "good".
In other words they were to rebuke the evils of the flesh.
Sound vaguely familiar?
Yes, they are "inequitable" and ALWAYS will be. What moral code do you live by that tells you this is somehow "wrong"
The moral code I hope most people live by.
The same ideal that sparked the changes that allow women to vote, go to school, have a career, and hold public office.
The moral code that says they are my equal and I will treat them as an equal by stating that that are as capable as I at anything either of us endeavor.
Then showing them that I really believe it by getting the hell out of their way and letting them do it.
and why should that apply to me or my Church?
It doesn`t apply to your church I`m sorry if I implied it did.
I didn`t mean to.
What kind of knowledge? FAITH? I am suprised that these deists are such darlings to you......... are they not foolish enough to believe in God?
My darlings huh?
They did seem to have a much kinder and tolerant brand of Christianity than I`m used to seeing.
To someone the Christian faith has always scorned and belittled merely for disbelieving their unprovable god they can make you feel a little better about where Christianity came from.
