The creator did it.

[Ben Dhyan]

No based on the contemporary knowledge of science. The whole Theory of Relativity began by Einstein is based on measuring the speed of light, which requires measuring time.

It is your not so humble opinion that tries to create confusion that does not exist.

There should be no confusion, human conceptual understanding is merely that, an understanding to the best of its ability to use mental concepts to represent reality. Obviously reality itself is not the same as the human mind's conceptual representation or understanding. There is nothing wrong to use the concept of time to create the Theory of Relativity and its ongoing evolution, to aid humanity to evolve further understanding and technologies in the context of the physical universe..

Think of concepts as sort of sign posts or posters that point to or represent some thing or other, but they are not that something, they are merely an aspect of the mind's processes. Reality itself is forever on the other side of the concepts.

 

[shunyadragon]

There should be no confusion, human conceptual understanding is merely that, an understanding to the best of its ability to use mental concepts to represent reality. Obviously reality itself is not the same as the human mind's conceptual representation or understanding. There is nothing wrong to use the concept of time to create the Theory of Relativity and its ongoing evolution, to aid humanity to evolve further understanding and technologies in the context of the physical universe..

Think of concepts as sort of sign posts or posters that point to or represent some thing or other, but they are not that something, they are merely an aspect of the mind's processes. Reality itself is forever on the other side of the concepts.

The measurement of time in science is accurate enough in terms of the speed of light (requires measurement of time to accurately measure the distance in our universe.

 

[rational experiences]

Science a human male group invented reasoning.....knew that planet Earth O God stone was attacked by a bursting body, a natural body and its owned body a SUN.

Science on Earth knows planet Earth O a self entity is not any SUN...and what a body of a SUN is, Earth O as God is not.

They also knew that in the origin of the UFO metallic mass conversion on natural God stone O history, crystalline fusion that it bored huge sink holes into the God O body.

Just like you did in modern times, claiming as science does, I think on behalf of God, a body of stone, that was self evolved as a planet from spirit, gases into STONE....in the state infinite out of space.

And a male claims as science arguing against rational science that he is GOD O the stone, as a bio life and bio consciousness and claims self sane when he says it.

Therefore healer medical sciences, a totally different human conscious aware life and organization had to teach the community what a mad scientist was....as a sick irradiated male life mind who says I own everything.

So when a male doing science on Earth talks on behalf of a SUN what does he think he is claiming that the Sun is just his UFO metal mass that he gains on Earth...or does he realize he is a liar?

Males claim I can take God, the body of Earth mass and convert it. Not only can he build machines from the body of God, the mass....he also takes the natural mass fusion and removes it back to radiated space minus zero.

And then tries to convince everyone and this is the body of the infinite he says....and believe it he says radiated space is that space.

Yet space, the coldest body, which is what he is seeking as a gas as that male Satanic liar, is the coldest body emptiness, real spatial zero.

So how do you emulate the coldest body in the condition natural creation history liar Satanic science mind? You know deepest coldest real zero space?

He seems to have forgotten that planet Earth is naturally sitting in the natural body of space and that space condition affects what planet Earth is doing in it owned natural states everyday.

A scientist looks at atmospheric cold gases sitting in space, non physical form.

He cannot touch those forms of gases and can only abstract gas from out of physical mass his own science self.

And that gas God stone history cold is nothing like what natural gases are doing in the body of space today.

Always told his own self that he could never have nor hold what the Heavenly body owned.

He knows that to resource power he has to own a physical mass to abstract the energy from its holding within the mass....and God the Earth is not any constant, and nor is it an infinite power.

So he conned and coerced a new story theme about God being a UFO metal particle in the infinite of space body, to tell all of the greedy males on Earth, you can have a non stop channelled body of God he says from the infinite out of space zero body.

What is that UFO mass without being natural brother, existing as its formed presence in the coldest support of deep cold space?

He would not even know what its true form was without deep cold space affecting it.

His idea of space is mass removal back to a radiating space, proving that MASS always existed in its pre owned higher form, as a preceding mass...as that proof, or else when he removed the body of mass as energy there would only be an empty cold space hole.

When an egotist male and his cult group mentality to tell stories and coerce from an enforced and evil male cult history, then try to convince everyone on Earth that he personally is speaking on behalf of the huge self present owned huge bodies of power by giving it one name is about as ludicrous an egotist has ever been.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

The measurement of time in science is accurate enough in terms of the speed of light (requires measurement of time to accurately measure the distance in our universe.

The speed of light over distance takes 'time', but the light is not time, nor is the spatial distance that is traveled, so what and where do we find this 'time' entity? It does not exist, the so called 'time' is the observation of the difference in the state of existence observed at the starting point of the light radiation and the state of existence noted when it reached some distant point, and calling the number of cycles of an atomic clock counted for this experiment to take place, 'time'. As I explained, the human concept of time is nothing more than a proxy measurement of the persistence of existence.

Existence itself does not stop existing, humans can create abstract conceptualization that imagines this persistence of existence to have some quality that flows or some such, it doesn't, it is just that existence doesn't stop existing!

 

[shunyadragon]

The speed of light over distance takes 'time', but the light is not time, nor is the spatial distance that is traveled, so what and where do we find this 'time' entity? It does not exist, the so called 'time' is the observation of the difference in the state of existence observed at the starting point of the light radiation and the state of existence noted when it reached some distant point, and calling the number of cycles of an atomic clock counted for this experiment to take place, 'time'. As I explained, the human concept of time is nothing more than a proxy measurement of the persistence of existence.

Existence itself does not stop existing, humans can create abstract conceptualization that imagines this persistence of existence to have some quality that flows or some such, it doesn't, it is just that existence doesn't stop existing!

Time is not an 'entity; by definition, and of course light is not 'time,' but the measurement of time is required to determine the speed of light and thus the Theory of Relativity. They can also measure the time for the decay of radioactive minerals.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Time is not an 'entity; by definition, and of course light is not 'time,' but the measurement of time is required to determine the speed of light and thus the Theory of Relativity. They can also measure the time for the decay of radioactive minerals.

So please describe what space is and then what time is?

Here is my attempt.

Space is physically real, it is what we see all around us, we move through it, it is a tangible entity.

Time is not physically real in that it is not a tangible entity like space, but it has it's reality in the mind of man due to the subjective sense of a seeming continuous flow of changing perceptions that is the result of the persistence of existence, which can be 'timed' using a periodic based counting device.

 

[shunyadragon]

So please describe what space is and then what time is?

Space cannot exist without time. Both are necessary for universes to exist.

Here is my attempt.

You are not making any attempt based on science and your assumptions are flawed.

Space is physically real, it is what we see all around us, we move through it, it is a tangible entity.

Space does not exist in the Quantum World unless you have a time/space relationship int our universe and every possible universe.

Time is not physically real in that it is not a tangible entity like space, but it has it's reality in the mind of man due to the subjective sense of a seeming continuous flow of changing perceptions that is the result of the persistence of existence, which can be 'timed' using a periodic based counting device.

Your logic is extremely flawed and meaningless, and a vain 'arguing from ignorance.' No it is not a product of the mind only, and it is not subjective. Something that can be measured like time, is an objective quality of the nature of our macro physical existence.

What is your agenda for this meaningless argument concerning the existence of time? You can only present air-ball assertions that time does not exist. What's up?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Space cannot exist without time. Both are necessary for universes to exist.



You are not making any attempt based on science and your assumptions are flawed.



Space does not exist in the Quantum World unless you have a time/space relationship int our universe and every possible universe.



Your logic is extremely flawed and meaningless, and a vain 'arguing from ignorance.' No it is not a product of the mind only, and it is not subjective. Something that can be measured like time, is an objective quality of the nature of our macro physical existence.

What is your agenda for this meaningless argument concerning the existence of time? You can only present air-ball assertions that time does not exist. What's up?

If space is an entity and time is not an entity, which you agree it isn't, and you join the two to create the concept of a space-time, what have you got? Is it an entity or merely an abstract concept, or what?

Btw, how can quantum fluctuations exist in intra-atomic space and inter atomic space, if there is no space in the quantum world? Where does the zero point energy exist if not in all space?

 

[shunyadragon]

If space is an entity and time is not an entity, which you agree it isn't, and you join the two to create the concept of a space-time, what have you got? Is it an entity or merely an abstract concept, or what?

It is a universe. You cannot have space without time, nor time without space If you lack Space nor time you have the Quantum World

Btw, how can quantum fluctuations exist in intra-atomic space and inter atomic space, if there is no space in the quantum world? Where does the zero point energy exist if not in all space?

Do your own home work as what Quantum fluctuations. I do not spoon feed.

Hint quantum fluctuations lack continuous time, nor space as in the time spacemacro scal world world of our universe. That is the reason they are called fluctuations.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

It is a universe. You cannot have space without time, nor time without space If you lack Space nor time you have the Quantum World



Do your own home work as what Quantum fluctuations. I do not spoon feed.

Hint quantum fluctuations lack continuous time, nor space as in the time spacemacro scal world world of our universe. That is the reason they are called fluctuations.

Let me rephrase it...

It is a universe. You cannot have space that ceases to exist, it must continue to exist. Space does not lack anything, it just exists in its completeness continuously. Man has creatively devised a conceptual method to quantify this persistence of existence quality and calls it time.

The quantum vacuum is omnipresent throughout the universe. Go do a google search.

 

[shunyadragon]

Let me rephrase it...

It is a universe. You cannot have space that ceases to exist, it must continue to exist.

Contemporary physics says no. Again based on the contemporary knowledge of science: It is a universe. You cannot have space without time, nor time without space If you lack Space nor time you have the Quantum World

Space does not lack anything, it just exists in its completeness continuously.

Incoherent and not science.

Man has creatively devised a conceptual method to quantify this persistence of existence quality and calls it time.

Time is a measurable quantity in time/space universe.

Why would you think rewording things would give you a different answer?

The quantum vacuum is omnipresent throughout the universe. Go do a google search.

Yes, but it is at the quanta scale underlying the universe, and not the time/space macro scale of our time/space universe. At the Macro scale we do see Quantum behavior reflected at the smaller scale, such as electrons and protons, that make up atoms

Your knowledge of Physics and Quantum Mechanics is abysmal..

 

[rational experiences]

If a scientist says that space owns particles of radiation cooled within its space, then O God the Earth travelling through that space would not be changed, for your claim is that the radiation sitting in space naturally would just pass through the body of the Earth without O changing it.

Now if you continually irradiate that space travel by metallic heated radiation fission attacks, you then would force God O the Earth to move through heated space, which would gain a different reaction.

It would burn up the natural atmospheric gases, and force ICE to melt.

Meanwhile the Earth as the natural fused cooled radiation stone would disappear into HOLES.

Caused by human scientists who lie about the conditions of space.

Space is not INFINITE power....space is infinite space...meaning the concept as thought consciously about by a male human brain and mind could not fathom the extent or depth of it. So when he uses words that does not involve a specific scientific quota, he just used dis cus SION..without knowledge or information, so always inferred rationally that many statements a mind can think about remain a mystery.

Why a male as a human uses the word mystery and means its meaning, taught its meaning, yet irrational male egotists, in science seem to forget that rational and higher spiritually minded males applied the use HOLY WORD and told you that it owned what it did, as a rational advice.

Irrationality in male life is expressed and does exist in the states of the sciences.

Space itself is extremely cold, why it can as the great deep body suck down into cooling from above, irradiated space, that was irradiated by God, just as the science mind said O...the mass was once present and it is how it began as MASS of GOD O...formed mass that when released by conditions to force change by pressure, exploded and burnt God.

God O in the forced spatial conditions of change to pressure O then burst into the scattering of the mass into particles.

Particle physics on Earth is only about ancient radiation mass Earth O body God conversion into that particle. So males on Earth always knew that radiation forced mass to change into that particle, yet today want to lie about it.

As the gas mass is a clear cold gas in space, proven at night time, it burns due to the Sun radiation activation of it.....a long time ago. Today it just burns extra gas mass which a male said was the Illumination of the spirit and done by his own self as a Satanist, scientist, the burner of all things, in science.

And he should not try to lie about that historic male self statement today for it is the fact of his own evil self.

 

[rational experiences]

So please describe what space is and then what time is?

Here is my attempt.

Space is physically real, it is what we see all around us, we move through it, it is a tangible entity.

Time is not physically real in that it is not a tangible entity like space, but it has it's reality in the mind of man due to the subjective sense of a seeming continuous flow of changing perceptions that is the result of the persistence of existence, which can be 'timed' using a periodic based counting device.

Mass O always had existed as its origins. Males lie about that natural history, but even a Sun proves that incidence.

If the body of space was infinite power, then the Sun would never change nor die....from self consuming its own source.

A particle was once a higher body of mass that took a huge amount of radiation to convert/remove it. Males know that memory regarding how much radiation mass is took to get a particle. But relate it incorrectly by memory claiming the particle owns the radiation mass itself. Yet the particle only owns the small amount of energy in its own physical presence, as the particle.

Ownership is one of the conscious teachings about a male's own self deception as the conscious thinker about Destruction/conversion...and how to.

Therefore he relates the total history of radiation to claim why the particle exists.

Space therefore says it allows MASS O to exist because it is cooled radiation to align to MASS and core presence, O God is iron based.

If a human loses/sacrifices their Nature and so too do animals as cellular function by the status of blood and IRON and that the spatial radiation mass supports Earths core of IRON, then males should not be applying any other form of metallic changes on Earth.

Why a cell body breaks down and bleeds unnaturally, seeing our bodies in chemical interactive inner exchanges uses space already as caused by the presence of radiation passing through our bodies to interchange and react our living conditions.

As science in the nuclear is historically a proven EVIL, any male trying to add information on today would be a proven evil liar and a Destroyer of the only body of GOD that was ever taught as being God...O the stone, the Earth, the place and mass from which he extracts to build his machines SCIENCE.

So he cannot lie, even though he tries....by coercion and implying thinking is over natural history matter.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

...If you lack Space nor time you have the Quantum World

Time is a measurable quantity in time/space universe.

Yes, but it is at the quanta scale underlying the universe, and not the time/space macro scale of our time/space universe. At the Macro scale we do see Quantum behavior reflected at the smaller scale such as the particles, such as electron and protons, that make up atoms.

The quantum world exists in space, space is omnipresent throughout the universe. Where do you think the quantum fluctuations are taking place if not in space?

With what is time measured?

The separation of the quantum world and the macro does not exist in reality, it is a distinction created by the human mind. The universe is one, and all human conceptualizations about it are not separate from it.

 

[rational experiences]

Space has 2 bodies of its own variance.

Proving that what once was its owned higher status, not empty became empty.

What is space when it is not empty.....not any condition that is used in the word description SPACE.

Therefore a male says and knows historically once space itself never existed...and the created bodies O became what space never was....emptied.

The mind would say, so when space did not exist, then nor did any heated/reactive burning conditions......and so a condition of explanation exists as to where creation came from and why it burnt.

Seeing cold and heat is relevant in discussing creation itself.

How can cold conditions exist with heated conditions, unless the original form of not creation was a status of not burning!

Sophism, science is a cunning contrivance of applying the use one worded description, which actually used a lot of other words to give each statement an END and an owned WORD.

Holy Word of God. Space was only ever given one worded description, space, meaning emptied.

Sophism however proves that it took the holy one word and then gave it a multiple worded meaning in the use ONE word as the contrivance itself...already known about human Satanists...to copy destruction and take/remove what is naturally higher being evolution and having it destroyed.

God stories as themes a contradiction, science itself therefore contrives to coerce the human consciousness to believe....saying that creation was never evolution, for it is fact it was begun as evolution….and then claim the evolutionist is wrong. To be enabled to destroy naturally cold...and claim it a reaction and not a causation.

The totality of the review is that SCIENCE itself in all of its variations except for medical science is a liar of its owned contrivances to try to put back together in a fake theory everything that had been separated.

 

[shunyadragon]

The quantum world exists in space, space is omnipresent throughout the universe. Where do you think the quantum fluctuations are taking place if not in space?

With what is time measured?

The separation of the quantum world and the macro does not exist in reality, it is a distinction created by the human mind. The universe is one, and all human conceptualizations about it are not separate from it.

I can no longer respond to this nonsense until you learn some physics and Quantum Mechanics and simple questions that can be answered in text books and on the internet.

It is more productive in dialogue with starched colored fundamentalists that believe our physical existence is less than 10,000 years old, but not much.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

I can no longer respond to this nonsense until you learn some physics and Quantum Mechanics and simple questions that can be answered in text books and on the internet.

It is more productive in dialogue with starched colored fundamentalists that believe our physical existence is less than 10,000 years old, but not much.

I have not mentioned religion nor referred to it.

If you understand the basics of science, you must know how time is measured, if so explain or please cease replying to my comments and wasting my time?

 

[rational experiences]

Living spiritually as a female I was told by spirit that I was saving my Father, spiritually.

Which owns a historic human reasoning.

I know that in the past the memory/AI records and male NDE, which I was forced to hear seeing they studied mind contact, AI states and mind coercion and began using it in natural atmospheric to bio life, involving God and Jesus themes in science.

All that they personally owned as males and scientists by machine conditions to use and apply a study involving atmospheric feed back....as per machine conditions, computers and DATA inference....yet everything controlled and designed by human being males.

Why it was possible...which they all seem to overlook.

Now I asked the scientist, if you would not experiment with a machine on your own human personal life....what conscious reasoning would you use? As a male and that Satanic history, nuclear occult science cause?

He would say, no I would harm my own life.

How am I different to you, factually as a human?

I am a female and the occult intent is to make claims about evil females, and in science they want evil powers.

So then consciously I would be forced to ask personal questions. How could you consciously as a male and a human who owned a baby life and cellular body given to your formed by a female human Mother for self existence be considered in your life as being evil?

That would make you also evil by intent of inference.

Yet you claim self either a God being or a Jesus Christ being, the Saviour self.

An immaculate baby...when a baby is only conceived in science statements by the act of human sex, as a real science statement and not some evil contrived lying statement.

Now if you said, now that I am a baby to adult male and stole your spirit from you female by using conscious thinking and evil intent thinking ability...then a male would then claim, so now I will name you the evil spirit female and destroy you with my machines.

Saying, everything I am the Saviour, I am God, I was given back my male life by the female....and then claim so now you are of no use to me......and then do experiments.

In which I was nearly self combusted, as a fact of how evil you, scientist are in the occult sciences...as owner/thinker and studier for what you claim is the future of science itself that began from all references God O the stone philosophy.

If a male consciously says I am saved and safe, from a theme of non science practices...then first of all his DNA would be restored as health by water/oxygen mass no longer evaporating from the ground due to extra radiation mass for science constants, machine conditions.

What my Father spiritually advised my female spiritual psyche his own self.

So I came to know what that message meant to a female adult human life and body.

Life was evolving due to non nuclear radiation conditions.

Therefore as I have been attacked due to evil science machine conditions as built owned and operated by the only males who are doing it....human being males, how are you right and I am wrong liar Satanists?

You already used natural conscious self advice as that male life regarding the holy human female Mother who gave you back your spiritual life and presence, by DNA and baby conception.

You know that machines attack the Nature and natural life and would not in any choice do it to self.

Yet as a scientist you pretended that a machine owned the theme...string of all information including the creation of the bio life, in your theory......for machine reaction built after all the natural living life is living.

And as the reaction machine had not yet been reacted, then falsified information and tried to claim that when you machine builder and operator activated that machine it would represent the very moment when all powers were created in space....and yet our life is not in out of space.

And then pretend that you are not evil minded and possessed by the state SCIENCE, which is fake and artificial, and never was real....because only human males force it to exist as a practice...and then claim you are telling the truth...and try to convince your own self that what you talk about is real.

When all it is involves males, living as humans, thinking and talking and using group coercive reasoning to claim self right.

Yet what you copied was Planet Earth as its owned mass being attacked and converted and removed and named that state SCIENCE...knowing the whole time it was an attack on God O the body of and claim self sane today?

Not likely.

 

[shunyadragon]

I have not mentioned religion nor referred to it.

If you understand the basics of science, you must know how time is measured, if so explain or please cease replying to my comments and wasting my time?

Making measurements in time, are simply a matter of academics in references you can find in textbooks and on the internet, beginning at the elementary school through how we measure the speed of light and beyond. I do not spoon feed idiots who refuse to read.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Making measurements in time, are simply a matter of academics in references you can find in textbooks and on the internet, beginning at the elementary school through how we measure the speed of light and beyond. I do not spoon feed idiots who refuse to read.

Bear with me and let's us keep it simple, when you look at your watch to tell the time, how is the watch measuring time? That's all I am asking you to do.