Green Gaia
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Frubals to pdoel. You said that much better than I would have.
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Jocose said:Nope. Not in the mood for educating you. You could do the research yourself though. It wouldn't' hurt. *shrugs*
D'you mean like the one who is living in a car because *our* government is dunning him for not returning his re-up bonus when he was discharged and it's ruining his credit rating to the point where he's unable to even get an apartment? Did I forget to mention that his legs were blown off not long after he received the bonus and then he was discharged?Faminedynasty said:I can remind you that it is our taxes that pay the medical for the legless vets returning from Iraq.
Oh blast! It won't let me frubal you....ok...have some coins!jamaesi said:If you're going to be stingy about who you help- which goes against the Bible, Jesus said to help the lowest of the low and the unsavoury people- then don't come crying when no one wants to help you.
I would say yes if I had faith that not just the popular causes and programs would be funded.Wouldn't it be cool if we could do the same for our taxes?
pdoel said:Here's an idea. Turn on MTV sometime. Watch shows such as "Real World", "Road Rules", or even better, "Spring Break".
Heterosexuals seem QUITE promiscious to me. More so than any homosexual I know.
Well, how about this. I went to a rather strict Presbyterian College. LOTS of Bible beaters there. I, (keep in mind, I am a gay male) was the ONLY one who wasn't having sex. Everyone else was hooking up just about every weekend, with different people each weekend.Jocose said:lol Now there is some objective data for you!
Ok...how about a specific percentage goes to the government to spend...and we get to designate the rest to specific programs?Maize said:I would say yes if I had faith that not just the popular causes and programs would be funded.
You can supply yours here .... http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18314Jocose said:lol Now there is some objective data for you!
rainbowchristianqld said:As for paying medical bills for "**** with AIDS", some people forget that there's just as many "Hetro's with Aids" in the world, do you not want to pay for your own "Club" as well?
As for Income Tax, I believe that there should just be the same percentage % taken off for everyone.
Never once did I say it was exclusively gays. You're the one who said that. I mentioned that I don't like to pay for AIDs treatments of ANYBODY who practises a risky lifestyle. It's not the government's job to regulate that sort of caring.FeathersinHair said:You pay for someone who's heterosexual, just as equally. Again, if you'd like to take this up in another thread, I'm more than willing.
You pay all of them? Dear heavens, that's gotta be a heavy burden! (Just kidding.)
I pay the same as you do. What if I didn't want to support all the heterosexuals, sleazing around with their risky lifestyle? Quite frankly, statistically (there being more straights than gays) that's the bigger outrage.
You do make a good point about paying, and I stand corrected. I would again bring up that it's more likely that the burden on that system is not exclusively gays.
Aqualung said:I mentioned that I don't like to pay for AIDs treatments of ANYBODY who practises a risky lifestyle.
History has shown time and again that regulation only hurts business. Let me give you a few example. Minimum wage. The minimum wage is pretty much a thing that the government set up because of its big heart in order to ensure that people won't be payed too little. This fails on several levels. If one business offeres X amount of dollars for a job and another business offers 2X dollars, who do you think is going to get the workers. Workers are essentially things you buy, and your service is something you sell. It works best on the free market economy. How do I know? I live in Oregon. Oregon's state minimum wage is $7.25, one of the highest in the nation. It also has one of the worst economies. Coincidence? I don't think so.truthseekingsoul said:I think this is the most dangerous and fatal idea to spring from free-market fundamentalism.
If the free market was perfect, America and the EU would not be steeped in draconian protectionism. If this message was true the privatised water systems in the third world would be the most efficient to be found.
You don't think you use the school system? The DMV is already slow as it is. Think what it would be like if none of these people had had an education. People can't vote well if they don't have an education, so we will have horrible presidents. People would stop doing white-collar work that is necessary for this country, because they won't get past grade school. Think what you want, but this country runs because of its educational system.pdoel said:Yes, it sucks that I, as a homosexual male, will probably never have children that will utilize the school systems. So that's money I spend to school taxes, that I will never get back.
That's what the "practise a risky lifestyle" meant. Try reading entire sentences.Maize said:
And the child who is born with HIV/AIDS is at fault how?
No need to get snippy. I just want to know how you find fault with the child that is born with HIV/AIDS that justifies saying that they shouldn't be helped by your (and everyone else's) taxes. That's all.Aqualung said:That's what the "practise a risky lifestyle" meant. Try reading entire sentences.
Firstly, those with the highest percentage of wealth do contribute the highest percentage in taxes. In fact, the least wealthy 60% of Americans have 5% of the wealth and pay 14% of the taxes. The wealthiest 1%, on the other hand have 38% of the wealth and pay 24.8% of federal taxes.Faminedestiny said:Firstly, those with the highest percentage of the money should pay the highest percentage of the taxes. Corporations have escaped paying taxes with government loopholes and foreign accounts, leaving the burden on the common people, and this needs to come to an end.
Maize said:No need to get snippy.
I don't think it is their fault, and I definitely don't mind paying taxes for them. But my feelings don't matter. It's the principle of it. The government is here to regulate my actions as far as keeping me from harming another, not regulation that makes me care for others.I just want to know how you find fault with the child that is born with HIV/AIDS that justifies saying that they shouldn't be helped by your (and everyone else's) taxes. That's all.