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Taliban leader in Afghanistan says women will be stoned to death in public.
- Thread starter Twilight Hue
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Nope. Not I. I don't see how one can be a liberal (in the classical sense) and not be absolutely at odds with these people.
From the article:
I guess that's about the best they can do at this point. I don't think very many people want to put together another coalition to invade Afghanistan again. They should have pulled out once they determined the fate of Osama Bin Laden, who was the whole reason for going in there in the first place. But they chose to stay, and it made things worse.
It should also be noted that the U.S. government helped them back in the 1980s against the Soviets. They were the "good guys" back then, before they turned into "bad guys." Saudi Arabia is also considered "good guys," even though their practices aren't that much different from the Taliban.
I can't say whether they're the "acceptable legitimate government," although there was a time when the U.S. did support them, as noted above. In any case, they are ostensibly in charge of the country at present, for better or worse (and it appears to be worse). They're doing what they're doing because they can, and no one at present is willing or able to stop them.
There was never an option for an acceptable government there,
other than for USA to remain there in perpetuity as enforcer.
libre
Skylark
I think it's meaningful to point out that 'legitimate' and 'acceptable' are not the same thing.
However in this case it would seem that neither are appropriate.
I do however feel compelled to say the US backed government was not desirable, legitimate, or sustainable.
It's their nation.
Theocracies tend to be very conservative and rigid. Are you suggesting Trump made a mistake by setting a date for a pull out? Or should the USA have never tried to occupy the nation in the first place?
If there was a reason for the UN to step in to uphold human rights then this place is one, but such could so easily spread.
libre
Skylark
What would you propose they do here?
No idea, but it seems that one nation doing anything usually comes to naught. Not as if one can force democracy on a nation - even if theocracies or dictatorships seem to be able to do this - as in Iran and here.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Just a reminder that Trump wanted to pull out before Biden's delay.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Hi h
People knew what was coming. Regardless of who to blame for it.
Actually, no one did know in advance.
Back when the government first fell, & people
argued that obviously USA should've stayed
there longer, I wondered if it really was so
obvious. I searched the internet for news.
I found no one predicting the government
would quickly fall.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
It should be of no surprise as the exact same thing happened when Nixon pulled us out of Vietnam.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Sad that people never learn from history.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Even most Muslims think these guys are whackos.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Let's hope they do a better job at it then.