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States vs. "Woke" Corporations

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
It's because one side is clearly intolerant against the other.

Smoking rooms weren't good enough for these people. They had to ban it all.
Those smoking sections don't keep smoke away from non-smokers, lots of places didn't even actually have smoking sections but it was the entire establishment (remember disposable ash trays at fast food restaurants?), and employees shouldn't be forced to breath it. And, yes, we should be intolerant towards public smoking because it is a public health risk, and no one should have to suffer the stench or health hazards. We shouldn't tolerate drunk driving either.
And, yes, Indiana banned it. What the hell is your excuse?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Exactly. It's just like what they did with the term "socialism"; they turned it into a lazy slur that simply refers to anything conservatives don't like or understand.
And yet, their definition of "socialism" is nearly identical
to that used by socialists here. So if it's a "lazy slur"
for them, what kind of "lazy" thing is it for socialists?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Those smoking sections don't keep smoke away from non-smokers, lots of places didn't even actually have smoking sections but it was the entire establishment (remember disposable ash trays at fast food restaurants?), and employees shouldn't be forced to breath it. And, yes, we should be intolerant towards public smoking because it is a public health risk, and no one should have to suffer the stench or health hazards. We shouldn't tolerate drunk driving either.
And, yes, Indiana banned it. What the hell is your excuse?
I don't treat other people as second class citizens because of their habits and choices.

You clearly do.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I don't treat other people as second class citizens because of their habits and choices.

You clearly do.
If someone is poisoning me in many states I'm legally allowed to shoot and kill this person.
And what does that post have to do with how I treat people? All I did was lay out the facts that public smoking is a public health hazard that no one should suffer. Even lots of smokers realize it's rude and impolite to smoke in a room where nonsmokers are present.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
If someone is poisoning me in many states I'm legally allowed to shoot and kill this person.
And what does that post have to do with how I treat people? All I did was lay out the facts that public smoking is a public health hazard that no one should suffer. Even lots of smokers realize it's rude and impolite to smoke in a room where nonsmokers are present.
Well it's so bad there were lawsuits filed as well as forming groups seeking equal representation.

Like this group did during the Clinton through the Obama presidency.

NYC C.L.A.S.H.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
The Rise of State Anti-ESG Legislation

Multiple states have decided to longer do business with corporations they deem too "woke" - to the detriment of the corporations and the states.

Does your state have an "anti ESG" law?
Are you OK with that use of your tax dollar?
I can't help but think that everybody using the word "Woke" is doing a Humpty-Dumpty. "“When I use a word… it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less.” It is becoming, if I may say it, somewhat tiresome.

I'll tell you what I think: I think that the right (okay, let's name it -- the Republican Party) has decided to target a really small minority of its population as "the enemy" that they can get dumb supporters to fear, and therefore get behind the Republicans.

Hell, those 0.0047% (mostly young) who identify as "transgender" must be such an existential threat to America that they should be a primary focus of everybody's attention! Really? I mean, really? And all those hordes (3 or 4 in a 100) of gay people trying to convert everybody else! How terrifying!

(By the way, gay people know better than anybody that you can't convert somebody. And they know this because they know they can't be converted themselves.)

And do you know something? I think it might work. Ron Desantis sure as hell thinks it will. A terrified population (even of imaginary enemies) is a malleable population.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Well it's so bad there were lawsuits filed as well as forming groups seeking equal representation.

Like this group did during the Clinton through the Obama presidency.

NYC C.L.A.S.H.
So, they want to selfishly poison others and expose other people to their toxins.
Yeah, I can shoot them to death in many states in the name of self defense/standing my ground. The facts support all claims that public smoking is a public health hazard.
And, because I'm a ***** and not a saint I do tend to get crappy with people who do things like spark up in a public building. They are poisoning those around them so I am not obligated to afford them any courtesies.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
What I really don't get with complaints of public smoking bans, Indiana of all places, a state packed full of smokers and those who don't accept the responsibility freedom comes with, Indiana, the Northernmost Southern State, banned it so what in the hell is everybody else's excuse?

I think some of the complaints might be due to the fact that a lot of these smoking bans came about incrementally and piecemeal. I remember when smoking was pretty much allowed everywhere, except elevators and movie theaters. Then airliners started having non-smoking sections. Then there were smoking and non-smoking sections of restaurants. But as the public began to learn more about the effects of second-hand smoke, even having smoking sections in the same room wasn't considered good enough. So they banned it in restaurants and just about every other public building, although bars were given an exemption for a while in Arizona. Some places it was allowed if smokers were in a separate room with a separate ventilation system. I remember they had that at the airport and a few restaurants, but even that went away, for whatever reason.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I think some of the complaints might be due to the fact that a lot of these smoking bans came about incrementally and piecemeal. I remember when smoking was pretty much allowed everywhere, except elevators and movie theaters. Then airliners started having non-smoking sections. Then there were smoking and non-smoking sections of restaurants. But as the public began to learn more about the effects of second-hand smoke, even having smoking sections in the same room wasn't considered good enough. So they banned it in restaurants and just about every other public building, although bars were given an exemption for a while in Arizona. Some places it was allowed if smokers were in a separate room with a separate ventilation system. I remember they had that at the airport and a few restaurants, but even that went away, for whatever reason.
I never saw the point of a non-smoking section. The tables immediately around you aren't, but the ones over there are you, often had to walk through them, and there still being a general cloud of smokiness in some of them.
I never considered it before, but yeah this did slowly happen over decades of time. When I was young it was just the norm and you saw it everywhere and didn't think of it or notice it, but last time I was in Oklahoma (a few years ago) it was disgusting stopping at a hotel and being asked "smoking or non?"
 
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