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Featured spirit of antichrist is in the world today

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by kjw47, Aug 19, 2017.

  1. savagewind

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    Tell us what the Bible says about that.
     
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    According to the Jehovah's Witnesses, the Bible should say that in the last days God will appoint
    men to listen to for their salvation.

    The Bible does say that there is just one table to sit at for salvation.
    The Bible does say that a faithful and discreet slave will be appointed to serve the food at the right table,
    but it doesn't say when he will be appointed.
    The Bible says that the unnamed faithful and discreet slave can turn on those they are feeding.


    Your teachers say the Bible speaks of them, but there is no proof. And where is the proof that they have not turned as Matthew 24:48 prophesies?
     
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    The teachings of Jesus point to the JW teachers being correct. Learn them, like this super important one---Matthew 6:33-- Therefore, keep on seeking-FIRST- the kingdom, and his( YHVH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these other things will be added to you.( sustenance, covering, spirituality)-- If one accomplishes that, then they can accomplish this ultra important truth--John 4:22-24= YHVH(Jehovah)
     
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    Its about Jesus' appointed teachers at any point in time.
     
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    It did teach that these men will lead one to salvation, Because the bible is clear--Jesus is head of the congregation. Coll 1:18-- One is taught in a congregation by teachers. The corrections they keep on making proves truth is what they want. Holy spirit keeps them standing.
    Back after Jesus died--those believing had to listen to the apostles and their writings, and they in turn trained other teachers.
     
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    Really, while witnesses were selling their houses and lands and property, getting ready for the end of the world in 1975, Christendom knew it was a lie. While witnesses were quitting their jobs and not pursuing education because they were told the world was ending in 1975, Christendom was still working and going to school. Who knew the TRUTH, your beloved teachers, or Christendom?
     
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    Where is it written that Jesus appoints teachers?
     
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    NEVER was it said it was coming in 1975 in a GB writing--It was said from a platform at a convention and it spread. That man erred by trying to date it.
     
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    Matthew 24:45
     
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    Holy Spirit can tell them to serve food at the proper time, but why don't they listen to The Holy Spirit who can tell them when they are wrong and do not teach?
    In other words, they say the Holy Spirit is what they listen to, but it doesn't tell them when they are wrong. Why not?

    They believe it can tell them what to speak, but it has been proved by your organization that it can't tell them not to speak.

    I believe the 144,000 are people who will speak only the truth. If they don't know something, they won't say it!
    You believe there are no errors in the Bible. Correct? Then it is the Bible writers of whom Jesus says that we should listen to them and it will be the same as listening to Jesus.

    If listening to the governing body is the same to you as listening to Jesus, then sometimes Jesus does not know, like sometimes the governing body does not know.
     
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    And how do you know they are that slave, because they said so?

    You don't know your teachers teachings very well, do you? They haven't been appointed over all His belongings, they lied, I'm sorry, they made an error!

    *** w13 7/15 p. 8 par. 19 “Tell Us, When Will These Things Be?” ***
    Finally, we examined why Jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919 but will take place during the great tribulation.

    But, what did they teach about ERROR?

    *** w50 11/15 p. 462 Fraudulent Religious Relics ***
    All error and lies are of the Devil and are certainly a great reproach and dishonor to God.
     
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    You are the one who is repeating the cover-up. Is the Watchtower what the gb says? It is in there that people should prepare for the end, coming soon.
     
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    That isn't an appointment. IT IS A QUESTION!

    When Israel asked for a leader in the form of a king, what did Jehovah say?

    You want your appointed teachers so what do you think Jehovah will say?
     
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    Irrelevant nonresponse.
     
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    Lol, no, they never said, 'the world is ending' but they sure eluded to it, a lot! Like these

    *** km 5/74 p. 3 How Are You Using Your Life? ***
    Yes, since the summer of 1973 there have been new peaks in pioneers every month. Now there are 20,394 regular and special pioneers in the United States, an all-time peak. That is 5,190 more than there were in February 1973! A 34-percent increase! Does that not warm our hearts? Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world’s end.


    *** w67 7/15 pp. 446-447 The Removal of Mankind’s Chief Disturber ***
    According to the Bible timetable, man’s history on earth has been nearly 6,000 years. Adam was created in 4026 B.C.E., which means that six thousand years of human history end about the fall of 1975 C.E. We are in the great 7,000-year rest day of God, starting at the time he rested after the creation of Adam and Eve. There are, therefore, a thousand years left to run. Without Satan and his demons to disturb mankind it will indeed be a restful time. It will be like a sabbath. In a way it will be a sabbath within a sabbath. The last thousand years of God’s great seven-thousand-year rest is a special sabbath over which the Son of man will be Lord.

    And if you need more FACTS, just let me know, I have them ALL!
     
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    According to Revelation 7 and 14 the sealing of the 144,000 will occur in the future. They are explicitly identified as Jews, 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel. Revelation 7:4-8 The JW's claim is a self-serving fabrication twisting of the Scriptures.
     
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    You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” (Matthew 34-37)​

    NEVER was it said that we get a pass for words that are spoken, but only judged for words that are written.

    A false message was spoken at a convention. Your Organization fed it to them. The sheep ate it just as they were encouraged and instructed to do. Some of the sheep got sick and had to leave.

    Rather than apologize and repent for serving improper food to the sheep, your Organization demands the sheep who became sick to come back and apologize to the chefs and waiters who prepared and served the rancid food!

    Look, imagine you are sitting at a restaurant and just had a bad meal. You complain, but the staff refuses to apologize. Instead they insist you first apologize for making the complaint before you they let you back into their restaurant. Would their "fine attitude" make you more or less eager to dine there?

    What if the chefs and waiters publicly told you it was wrong for patrons to write bad reviews about their experience and they should keep such comments to themselves?

    What if the restaurant owners accept no criticism but freely accept praise? Is this our telltale sign that the chefs are humble?

    What happens if you learn "worldly food inspectors" came to the restaurant days and months before, recommending the chefs make certain changes but the chefs assured their patrons their food preparation was vastly superior to anything the world had to offer. Do you continue to bring your friends there?

    Now what happens when you see a fly in your soup, and notice the same fly in everyone else's bowl? You ask your waiter about it, and he tells you not to worry, if there are flies in everyone's soup, "Jehovah will correct it in due time". Do you ask for spoons and tell the kids to "Dig in!"???

    fly in soup.jpg

    And given the history of rancid food, should you expect us to be more or less willing to get up every Saturday morning, knocking on the doors of friends and neighbors to recommend this restaurant in the hope of getting a better seat at their table?

    I know I couldn't recommend physical food at such an establishment, much less spiritual food. The idea of awesome eggs with an occasionally putrid cheese sauce isn't enough for me to dine there, and no, knowing the chefs are "fallible" would not be enough for me or any other reasonable person to change their mind.

    Quite simply "Good News" that occasionally makes you sick is not a serving Christians should expect from God. Yes, mistakes can happen KJW, but if there's one thing I know it is this: we can never expect an apology for a bad meal when we partake in a table of demons. (1 Corinthians 10:21). Once you realize the cheese sauce makes you sick they'll bring out something new for you to enjoy.
     
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    They listen to the HS--When God wills a truth known( at the proper time) they make correction once they see their error.
    Your false reasonings write posts like that---cannot you understands that the proper time means when God wills, not before--Jesus does exactly what his Father wills.
    There are many errors in trinity translations. There is alot of symbolism in the bible as well--none can understand without the HS revealing the truth of the matter.
    Here is a simple one--1Cor 1:10--unity of thought ( all matters of truth) no division--Why cant the 34,000 different trinity based religions understand this simple milk?
     
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    The teachings of Jesus back the JW teachers--that is how I know.
    Stop living 100 years ago--they made many corrections since then--today is what counts.
     
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    They always tell us to be prepared.
     
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