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spirit of antichrist is in the world today

djhwoodwerks

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The Earth is where the meek(great multitude) stay on forever. Psalm 37:9-11,29)

You are misinformed, your teachers are just keeping you and them separated, they are portraying themselves as better than you, worth more than you and holier than you, and you just can't see it. Please show where Jesus ever taught, mentioned or even hinted at "PARADISE EARTH". You can search the whole Bible and you will not find the words, "paradise earth".
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
You misunderstand--One can do 99% correct, yet still be mislead to partake off the table of demons( 1Corinthians 10:21)

Just like your "real teachers", right? You have readily and boastfully admitted your "real teachers" have made "errors" in their teachings and understandings, correct? Your "real teachers" themselves have admitted to making errors. Please explain how this quote from your own watchtower magazine, from your own "real teachers" doesn't apply to them.

*** w50 11/15 p. 462 Fraudulent Religious Relics ***
All error and lies are of the Devil and are certainly a great reproach and dishonor to God. (John 8:44; Rom. 1:25) Consequently, Jehovah is against all such pious frauds that teach lies in His name and He will clean them out at Armageddon.

Just in case you don't see it, it says, "ALL ERROR AND LIES ARE OF THE DEVIL". Looks like your beloved "real teachers" eat off both tables!

Your "real teachers" published that! They believe ALL error is of the devil! There's no way you can get around that kjw47, your "real teachers" eat off both tables!
 

savagewind

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Premium Member
@kjw47 The governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses lie about the people who leave the organization.
To lie proves they are of the devil.

I was a JW and I left. I still believe in and serve Jehovah. I realize that Jesus is God's son and not God. I know what death is. I think that paradise Earth is a possibility. WE can't make it. It is a gift.

They say that people who leave them are sinning and going over to Satan. That is a lie.
 

kjw47

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How do you know that the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses isn't 99% correct, but 1% eating at the demon's table?


I seriously doubt that. The teachings of Jesus point to them as being correct. No one knows what individuals do. We will all stand before the judgement throne alone.
 

kjw47

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I know why you @kjw47 and other Jehovah's Witnesses can not realize that the governing body can be 1% wrong and so can't win. You have invested so much time and heart in believing in them that you can't admit that you may be wrong.
If you are wrong you know what will happen to you. Don't you?



I didn't say 1% wrong--I said that one percent partaking off the table of demons. Things of the world. not things of God.
A great example of satan and his teachers transforming into angels of light by allowing the supposed followers of Jesus to partake of the valentines day holiday, handed to the children as well--they, using Love and sharing ---but added-CUPID- a real life falsegod worshipped by Greeks for many years. All who participate are showing support for that false god. A true follower runs from the such. Mortals are so easily fooled. Satan beat 99% on earth today, centuries ago.
One of his best methods= from generation to generation, from parent to child--false god worship and pagan practices off the table of demons handed down. Its very sad.
 

kjw47

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@kjw47 The governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses lie about the people who leave the organization.
To lie proves they are of the devil.

I was a JW and I left. I still believe in and serve Jehovah. I realize that Jesus is God's son and not God. I know what death is. I think that paradise Earth is a possibility. WE can't make it. It is a gift.

They say that people who leave them are sinning and going over to Satan. That is a lie.


Luke 10:16--proves your error.== If one rejects Jesus appointed teachers, they as well reject Jesus and God--vica versa as well.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Luke 10:16--proves your error.== If one rejects Jesus appointed teachers, they as well reject Jesus and God--vica versa as well.
YOU believe someone who says God sent him is telling the truth. I believe Jesus and anyone who doesn't lie.
I already proved to you that the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses lies.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
You are misinformed, your teachers are just keeping you and them separated, they are portraying themselves as better than you, worth more than you and holier than you, and you just can't see it. Please show where Jesus ever taught, mentioned or even hinted at "PARADISE EARTH". You can search the whole Bible and you will not find the words, "paradise earth".


Eden translates= paradise-- it will be on the New earth, not a new planet--a new system of things--Gods kingdom in the ruling power position forever--no more satan influences--Gods will is what will happen. That was his will from the beginning.
 

kjw47

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YOU believe someone who says God sent him is telling the truth. I believe Jesus and anyone who doesn't lie.
I already proved to you that the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses lies.


No they do not. Its Gods way or the highway. No domestic knows a truth before Jesus' appointed teachers do. They falsely reason that they do.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Eden translates= paradise-- it will be on the New earth, not a new planet--a new system of things--Gods kingdom in the ruling power position forever--no more satan influences--Gods will is what will happen. That was his will from the beginning.
You seem to think you need God's Kingdom ruling from Earth by the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses, but if they really are of the 144,000 they will be going to Heaven. Then what?
 

savagewind

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Premium Member
No they do not. Its Gods way or the highway. No domestic knows a truth before Jesus' appointed teachers do. They falsely reason that they do.
Can you see that I have not left the core Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs? THEY say I will. I didn't! They lie.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
No they do not. Its Gods way or the highway. No domestic knows a truth before Jesus' appointed teachers do. They falsely reason that they do.
I know it is true that I have not left Jehovah. YOU and THEY say I can't know that! I do know it!
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Can you see that I have not left the core Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs? THEY say I will. I didn't! They lie.


Its God who said you did--Luke 10:16-- as soon as you think you know truth before they do and reject what they teach. It applies to all.
Jesus clearly teaches that spiritual food( truth) comes at the proper time( when God wills--not before) only through his faithful and discreet slave( appointed teachers)-- no domestic knows before they do.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
@kjw47 do I have to hear from the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses before I can know Jehovah and that I serve Jehovah?


They are the faithful and discreet slave that Jesus appointed over his belongings-- It is Gods will that truth comes through them. No one on earth knows truth unless taught by them.
 

Rick B

Active Member
Premium Member
Jesus clearly teaches that spiritual food( truth) comes at the proper time( when God wills--not before) only through his faithful and discreet slave( appointed teachers)-- no domestic knows before they do.

Definition of a characteristic of a cult.

Even those common Bereans were lauded for going to the Scriptures to see if what that great Apostle Paul was teaching was so.
 
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savagewind

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Premium Member
Its God who said you did--Luke 10:16-- as soon as you think you know truth before they do and reject what they teach. It applies to all.
Jesus clearly teaches that spiritual food( truth) comes at the proper time( when God wills--not before) only through his faithful and discreet slave( appointed teachers)-- no domestic knows before they do.
There are more people than your people who believe they teach the truth. Jesus IS the truth so I have decided to stick to him. I learn about him by the words of THE BIBLE and I listen to IT. Luke isn't about your teachers. It is about the Apostles.
 

savagewind

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Premium Member
Strange then why all opposition against them if your words are truth. You fight the truth I share.
You are calling what you share the truth, but what if the governing body receive new light about what you are teaching today? Then what you teach won't be the truth and this will be you calling a lie the truth.
 
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