Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I won´t give you the name, but I have discussed this with a regular poster who is very articulate and very intelligent. We usually tangle over social issues, and he is a hand full, yet we were in a discussion three or four months ago regarding creation.
In that discussion he flat out stated that abiogenesis had been proven. Taken aback by his ignorance I asked him about his assertion, again he stated it. Further than that he would not go.
I would expect that from some knot head, but not this guy.
I am curious to see who this guy is. Since you have not been exactly on the up and up, your use of Koonin for example, If it was me I may have claimed that an abiogenesis event has been proven, and again if it was me you misunderstood that. That we know that there was no life and then there was life proves an abiogenesis event. It does not prove naturalistic abiogenesis. A god magically poofing life into existence would still be an abiogenesis event. Since historically appealing to magic has never been justified, instead we see more and more concepts explained by the sciences, then saying that natural abiogenesis is the likely answer is not "faith" it is reasoning. You on the other hand are left with a God of the Gaps argument with what your God supposedly does constantly shrinking.